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Okay, those statistics are all well and good, I know them quite well, but they do nothing to prove the point that I was contesting -- that legalizing drugs will make them cheaper and drive dealers out of the business.
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the only thing that legalizing drugs is going to do is give the government more money, and i don't think that is a bad thing. put it this way, all of the illegal drugs sold in america are sold tax free. obviously if you are selling drugs illegaly, you're not going to give the government taxes for it. but if the government were to legalize said drugs, then they could control the sale and price of said drugs. if they were to say set the price of something that sells now for $100 at say around $65 or $75, then the dealers would go broke, who would buy from them for $25-$35 more when they can go to the local pharmacy and spend less? the government would be making tax dollars on the sale of the drugs, and would be spending less on prisoners.
i don't think coke should be legalized, but maybe others
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Originally posted by sigma:
Okay, those statistics are all well and good, I know them quite well, but they do nothing to prove the point that I was contesting -- that legalizing drugs will make them cheaper and drive dealers out of the business.
I wasn't talking about legalizing, I was talking about de-criminalizing. There is a difference. Leagalizing is like you can go to your local drug store and pick up some heroin and weed. De-criminalizing is lessening the sentences and harshness of being caught with these drugs. For example, a man gets caught with heroin. Instead of throwing him in prison which won't help anyway, we put him in a treatment program. We try to make them better. Locking these people up isn't going to do anything.
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Originally posted by GregDawg:
we put him in a treatment program. We try to make them better.
this will never work. you cannot make someone get better. many drugies are too weak to change when they want to much less change because you want them to. i have quite a bit of experience dealing with drugs and drugies. from this i have seen that forced treatment programs are seen as a shorter incarceration.
Originally posted by gregdawg:
Locking these people up isn't going to do anything.
maybe, maybe not. what does work is putting the fear of god into them. i have seen this done. a beautiful sight indeed.
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Originally posted by MarshlMathrs:
 man, dont you hate when that happens, you go to get on someone and then all of the sudden your typing is all messed up. but we gotcha..........
 useless posts..........making people stupider one thread at a time
you were just proving a fact though, its all good 
************just so you know im not gettin on you, i really hate when that happens, plus im bored 
LMAO..no biggie, its all in good fun bro.. 
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Originally posted by GregDawg:
Originally posted by sigma:
Okay, those statistics are all well and good, I know them quite well, but they do nothing to prove the point that I was contesting -- that legalizing drugs will make them cheaper and drive dealers out of the business.
I wasn't talking about legalizing, I was talking about de-criminalizing. There is a difference. Leagalizing is like you can go to your local drug store and pick up some heroin and weed. De-criminalizing is lessening the sentences and harshness of being caught with these drugs. For example, a man gets caught with heroin. Instead of throwing him in prison which won't help anyway, we put him in a treatment program. We try to make them better. Locking these people up isn't going to do anything.
Yeah that is what we need, to pay to have people treated for an illegal substance, when many after the treatment centers go right back out and buy drugs.
Im not saying that imprisoning people will solve anything, however letting people know that its ok to break the law because all that will happen is you get to go to a free clinic for a couple months DEFINATLY wont help.
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Originally posted by Roz 1999 SVT-C:
Originally posted by MarshlMathrs:
man, dont you hate when that happens, you go to get on someone and then all of the sudden your typing is all messed up. but we gotcha..........
useless posts..........making people stupider one thread at a time
you were just proving a fact though, its all good
************just so you know im not gettin on you, i really hate when that happens, plus im bored
LMAO..no biggie, its all in good fun bro..
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Originally posted by GregDawg:
I wasn't talking about legalizing, I was talking about de-criminalizing. There is a difference. Leagalizing is like you can go to your local drug store and pick up some heroin and weed. De-criminalizing is lessening the sentences and harshness of being caught with these drugs. For example, a man gets caught with heroin. Instead of throwing him in prison which won't help anyway, we put him in a treatment program. We try to make them better. Locking these people up isn't going to do anything.
IMO de-criminalization is not a good compromise. Vancouver, BC tried that and it merely resulted in an increase in drug-related crime (more dealers protecting their turf, etc.). Now, legalization has some attractive benefits, and I've long thought we should give that a try, at least as far as marijuana is concerned.
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With the amount of money all the administrations have spent on "The war on drugs" we could have walked up to all the drug cartell's and bought-out all their poppy fields and cocaine plantations, then turned around and set fire to the lot.
But if they did this, then a bunch of people would end up with nothing to do.
It comes down to the fact that the American people like to hear there is a war on something as it makes it seem like something is getting done.
If problems get solved quickly then people will have nothing to [censored] about.
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Originally posted by Stazi:
If problems get solved quickly then people will have nothing to [censored] about.
Or run for re-election on. Good post.
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