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Originally posted by Antonio:
Here is a example. We are sitting at Friday's chilling. Someone throws a cup at Pete. Guess what? Whomever threw that cup is going to get dealt with, BECAUSE I got my boys back.
You hang at Friday's?
Wow, you run with a tough crowd! 
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Originally posted by Antonio:
Here is a example. We are sitting at Friday's chilling. Someone throws a cup at Pete. Guess what? Whomever threw that cup is going to get dealt with, BECAUSE I got my boys back.
You hang at Friday's?
Wow, you run with a tough crowd!
Now I hate America? That is a new one to me.
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Originally posted by BP:
since no one got hurt other than a black eye on a couple players, fans, and the NBA i'm still lmao @ the whole incident.
several detroit fans were forced to lean back last night. lol.
for those who haven't seen it yet here's a link. right click save: http://www.shockpoint.com/pacers_pistons_brawl.avi
The link doesn't work does anyone else have the video clip so I can see it?
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i will upload it in a sec
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personally, if some dude in a restaurant or wherever through his drink in my face, id deck him too. On the OTHER hand, if I was a professional sports player and KNEW that this would be on tv and each punch could potentially cost me a million bucks, I'd show more restraint. If he had NOT run up into the stands, Im sure the drink-thrower would be arrested for that. throwing a drink in someone's face is prosecuteable battery, just like spitting. (most people don't take it that far though--pressing charges for minor batteries) we briefly discussed this in my Torts class today as were reviewing battery and assault (and other stuff) and it was clearly agreed upon that every single person in that melee would be liable for battery. it was also widely agreed upon by everyone, especially by the professor who practiced this type of law (tort) for years, that Artes would not be able to claim self defense. Artes would have to fear that the dude was about to hit him, the guy who threw the drink at him was 10+ feet away. ps just clear up some misconceptions i see posted in hear and often hear: 1. assault is the apprehension of an IMMEDIATE contact or battery. doesn't have to be fearful, could be simply unpleasant. (you also dont have to be aware of it, it can "about to happen" behind your back) 2. battery is any offensive touching including spit, poking, pushing, hitting, etc... or by use of something to touch, ie throwing a chair at your head or firing a bullet into you. if you push someone down on their a$$ you have committed a battery, not an assault. if they saw you coming, and thought you were about to do something to them, then it would be assault & battery. self defense can only be an equal or lesser force (unless you reasonably believe your are about to be battered). in other words, if someone on the 2nd story throws a chair at you, you cant run up there and beat him. if you throw a chair back at him, you have just committed the same offense. not to be preachy, just a little fyi on assault and battery. I see some people saying "he pushed his face and that was clearly assault"--it would be assault and battery, cuz he saw 6'8" of mass coming straight at him. my 2 cents, i agree with Jato. some serious examples need to be made here. in doing so, they can prevent fans from acting stupid in the future and players from losing control. As a sports commentator said on tv, self defense may keep them from losing their jobs or receiving extremely harsh NBA penalties, but it wouldnt fly in court. I think the guys who went onto the court should be banned for life from any NBA game and arrested and sued (civily) by the players. I think the fans that contributed to pouring drinks on the players heads should maybe be banned for life as well, in addition to arrest and being sued by the players. the fans involved are sure as hell going to sue the players. 
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Originally posted by DJ Capp 911:
lets change the subject for a second. How funny would it have been if when artest was standing toe to toe with a fan the fan drops his ass??? Talk about losing your reputation!!!!
That fight was crazy though. Rick Mahorn trying to break it up and then the big black dude throwing blows into guys heads from behind. That was crazy
Or what if the fan pulled out a knife and stabbed the [censored] out of Artest? Ask Monica Seles, it can happen.
But that big black dude was serioulsy landing some shots!
Plenty of blame to go around, but I will agree that any fan stepping on the court should get knocked out.
Anyone see the old film of Ditka, when he was a player, flat-out running over a fan that was running around the field during a game?
I once saw another case of a scawny-assed drunk fan biting off more than he could chew.
I was watching a WCW PPV some years back, Piper, Hogan, and Savage in a cage, Hogan and Savage handcuff Piper to the cage, and some dumbass fan climbs the cage and jumps in the ring. Hogan and Savage were beating the [censored] out of the fan, it was priceless, then they cut the camera the PPV ended suddenly. Bah!
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Originally posted by DrGonzo:
Originally posted by DJ Capp 911:
lets change the subject for a second. How funny would it have been if when artest was standing toe to toe with a fan the fan drops his ass??? Talk about losing your reputation!!!!
That fight was crazy though. Rick Mahorn trying to break it up and then the big black dude throwing blows into guys heads from behind. That was crazy
Or what if the fan pulled out a knife and stabbed the [censored] out of Artest? Ask Monica Seles, it can happen.
But that big black dude was serioulsy landing some shots!
Plenty of blame to go around, but I will agree that any fan stepping on the court should get knocked out.
Anyone see the old film of Ditka, when he was a player, flat-out running over a fan that was running around the field during a game?
I once saw another case of a scawny-assed drunk fan biting off more than he could chew.
I was watching a WCW PPV some years back, Piper, Hogan, and Savage in a cage, Hogan and Savage handcuff Piper to the cage, and some dumbass fan climbs the cage and jumps in the ring. Hogan and Savage were beating the [censored] out of the fan, it was priceless, then they cut the camera the PPV ended suddenly. Bah!
Why should the fan automatically be hit...
What if he was getting out of the stands to get away from the players...too many lines crossed. It would have been nice if someone had laid out Artest. 
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Why should the fan automatically be hit...
What if he was getting out of the stands to get away from the players...too many lines crossed. It would have been nice if someone had laid out Artest.
You don't escape a fire by running back into the flames.
Fans running onto the court were looking to join the situation, not escape it. Again, what if they have a weapon? Remember the baseball 1st base coach getting shanked by a fan? Bottom line, and I don't care if it's the cops or a player, you are probably getting your ass put on the floor if you run onto the court.
And yeah, if would have been nice if Artest got laid out. No excuse for a player to enter the stands, either. He was protecting himself from LIQUID. Let the cops handle it.
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