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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Can't break that 101mph barrier can you? That's damn impressive though.
Anthony had called me to let me know and I could hardly believe it. It's too bad about the axle though.
I may have if I could have ran again with a full cool down and lots of ICE. Who knows???
Also that flat rear may have slowed the trap down in the second run??? Just speculation
Yes there were a lot of people there watching. I was stoked.
Wow! Congratulations. I am so pleased that you did so well. With a little luck and that extra timing you could theoretically have been looking at a 12.999
hehehe, I'm not expecting it but I think it is possible.
So you think that I will snap off my axles in my car if I run drag radials? I was going to actually run some drag slicks before I left but I couldn't find any rims to mount them on. I need to get some steelies and hook them up.
Let me know how that goes.
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
I believe Greg, because he's a blunt straight forward guy, BUT, with that said, I am just baffled at the .5 reduction in ET, but no improvement in MPH. I know Greg will prove my nay saying....
Thats not uncommon and makes sense. The top speed in the 1/4 is determined mostly by the power the car makes and the coefficient of drag among other things.
The launch won't affect overall top speed but it will seriously affect the ET. If you launch strong you get moving UP to speed quicker and it saves you a bunch of time.
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I understand that, but fromy experience in the SHO community and here, most FWD cars, have much higher MPH than RWD cars, usually associated with a higher powerband better launch, etc. For example my buddy's sho ran a 13.39 @ 108. The CSVT has about the same powerband, but a little bit shorter gearing than the SHO, and I would obviously expect a drop in ET with the better traction, additionaly I would expect a few MPH increase. Again, I fully believe you can drop your et .1 or even .2 with no MPh gain (as I have with practice in my truck, first time at the track I ran a 13.3 @ 103 and my last time I ran a high 13.1 @ 103). It just seems odd to have a total et decrease of almost .5 seconds and no mph increase? And I thought I saw someone saw they were having problems with the timers....but, like I said, I know Greg will return to the track and prove me wrong. IMO, I just think the 13.70 is a more accurate time. Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
I believe Greg, because he's a blunt straight forward guy, BUT, with that said, I am just baffled at the .5 reduction in ET, but no improvement in MPH. I know Greg will prove my nay saying....
Thats not uncommon and makes sense. The top speed in the 1/4 is determined mostly by the power the car makes and the coefficient of drag among other things.
The launch won't affect overall top speed but it will seriously affect the ET. If you launch strong you get moving UP to speed quicker and it saves you a bunch of time.
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Un frikin beleivable!! Makes me want to go spend 5000 on my car.  Please tell me SOMEBODY got a video of all this!!
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I also was able to witness this amazing day at the track for demon! congrats again man. When he staged for his 2nd run,the guy next to me said to his buddy, "what the hell is a escort doing here?" I looked at him, and said, "That will be the fastest N/A escort you'll ever see." After he saw demon run, he was in shock. it was great. Great day at the track with lots of fast cars. glad to see its back on the road!! 
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Originally posted by dartsoccer8:
I am able to bare witness to Greg's 13.4!! congrats again man.
When he staged for his 2nd run,the guy next to me said to his buddy, "what the hell is a escort doing here?"
I looked at him, and said, "That will be the fastest N/A escort you'll ever see."
After he saw demon run, he was in shock. it was great.
Great day at the track with lots of fast cars. glad to see its back on the road!!
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"That will be the fastest N/A escort you'll ever see."
Awesome.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
"That will be the fastest N/A escort you'll ever see."
Awesome.
I must have that ZX4 option package... 
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
The BIG problem is the inner tripod shaft is the one that breaks.
They need that made from 4340 or better.
Making the outer out of it does not fix the problem. Why are not both made from it if it's a "Stage 2"
Making the outer piece from 4340 does nothing by itself! 
THis is what their website said-
This is our 300HP axle set for the Contour and Mondeo. designed for 300HP (maybe more) they are one solid set, center bars made from a high grade chrome moly designed to have more torsional twist (from our special heat treat) they are ready when you are. Using a different heat treat on the outer c.v. and using our oversized inner tripod these axles are ready. This axle can also be ordered in a special Road/Rally version. What we do it carefully polish and match the internals and use a special grease with vented boots (road/rally is an extra $100.00) email or call for ordering the road/rally system.
So, they apparently use an oversized inner tripod? Does that even help? I know of only BurritaSVT destroying these, but once again, that goes back to the shock coefficient Stazi was mentioning. . .sounds like no one could put slicks with 400+hp without destroying these axles. . . I'll go to the track with Tom when he's back to see if they can handle it, but I'm a bit leary. . .sounds like I'd have to baby the frist two gears and then play catch up on 3rd and 4th. . .
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Originally posted by ssmumich00:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
The BIG problem is the inner tripod shaft is the one that breaks.
They need that made from 4340 or better.
Making the outer out of it does not fix the problem. Why are not both made from it if it's a "Stage 2"
Making the outer piece from 4340 does nothing by itself!
So, they apparently use an oversized inner tripod? Does that even help?
I know of only BurritaSVT destroying these, but once again, that goes back to the shock coefficient Stazi was mentioning. .
sounds like no one could put slicks with 400+hp without destroying these axles.
The Stage 2 has THE SAME inner tripod that the Stage 1 has.
ONLY the outer is made from 4340 steel.
Why that cheaped out is beyond me but even still they chose the wrong one to make from 4340 because the inner is the weaker link!
Yes the oversized tripods and larger corresponding CV joint help eliminate that as the weakest link.
The first axle I damaged was an OEM and the inner CV was what failed.
The HD (Stage 1) axle failed at the inner spline while the larger CV's withstood the beatings. (many more beatings on street tires before the 3 drag radial runs)
Without replacing the entire tripod with one made from a stronger material the inner tripod will always be the weakest link.
You are correct that Stage 2 axles are a complete rip off and offer no gain in launching ability.
Even Stage 1 axles are a rip off because you can buy the exact same thing from GCK for $120 each (retail) with a lifetime warranty vs ~$400 a set with a "limited" 6mos rebuild warranty.
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