Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums General Common Interests Who is pro war and volunteering to go fight?

Originally posted by JVT:

---

Originally posted by BP:

---

OR the US was in imminent and legitimate clear and present danger from the nation in question.

---

And tell me why we should even let anyone GET to that point to begin with?

---

Originally posted by Red1998SVT:

---

Look, this is not agriculture. When we start a war, we send thousands of people to their deaths and we force later generations to pay hundreds of billions in debt. Therefore, when we start a war, we ALWAYS have to ask: is it RIGHT? This moral question is what makes your analogy meaningless.

---

Originally posted by BP:

---

Originally posted by Andy W.:

---

TMK, it was always called OEF.

---

that's what it was labeled after the weapons inspectors couldn't find the wmds our intelligence agencies were supposedly helping them to look for, and we had already pulled the trigger on troop deployment.

Originally posted by Andy W.:

---

So if something doesn't effect you, you don't care eh.

---

show me where i've said that and i'll pay pal you $50. eh.

---

Originally posted by Andy W.:

---

No one is PRO-WAR! We are pro removal on Saddamm and instituting a Democracy. -Andy

---

did they ASK us to bring them Democracy? (by force). did the CIA take a survey and ask the Iraqi people if they would like a Democratic government? Oh, it's better for them than what they have, right?

you know, the British thought the same thing when they tried to force Christianity and "civilization" on other parts of the world that they annexed into their empire.they failed.
the Crusades tried to do the same thing. How Christian is the middle east now?

I can completely see Anotonio's point, not that i agree. There people in here that are so enveloped in their right-wing or left-wing sympathies that they can't even objectively see from the "other side".
I am not pro-war or anti-war. I think we should use it when absolutely necessary as the LAST means of resort (such as WWII). I think we are in more danger of an imminent threat from PRK than we have ever been from Iraq. Funny thing is, there isn't a drop of oil in PRK. Im not saying that IS the reason why blah blah blah. im just saying its a fact and i think there is much more to this war in Iraq (that supposedly ended half a year ago?) than we are being made aware of. The upper echelons of government do not exactly share their information/agendas with the public or military rank and file.
I have a cousin in Iraq right now. he was in the Watchdogs http://slate.msn.com/id/2109447/ and is now supporting them with a private contractor. he is risking his neck over there for some serious $ but i think he also gets a kick out of Iraqis getting wasted. I think that maybe his Marine mentality but i wouldnt know, im not one (no offense to UMSC, just serious asskickers)
My father and two uncles were in the Army during Vietnam. only one of my uncles went. My dad told me JUST last night how much he is against the draft. I asked, "was it because mostly poor and middle class kids who werent in college had to go?" and he said,"even worse. there was big stink back then that out of all the members in congress and the senate only THREE had children in the military! one had a son in Nam and the other two had cushy jobs at the Pentagon." he said he remembered how much congress was SO much in favor of sending troops over there. and for what?! to bring Democracy to the people of South Vietnam? well, they have been under Communist rule for 30+ years now and are doing pretty damn good, better than Iraq! im not pro-communism, the least thing from it, but Im just not so sure we should send "storm troopers" around the globe to institute our beliefs. If there is a SERIOUS concern of a dangerous threat to us or our close allies then that is a different story. That, has yet to be proven. we are now simply on missionary's quest to save the heathens from their own guaranteed demise.

Originally posted by EternalOne:

---

Quote:

---

I wonder how much Pro War in Iraq [censored] would you be spouting if you had AK and morter rounds flying over your head.

---

Well, here's a perspective for you...

I've been for the Iraq war since day #1, and I still stand behind the decision. Not only that, but I have no less than 20 friends in action at this very moment, as well as my brother-in-law who is in Baghdad. I am a retired Marine, I have seen action in multiple counties, and I have had tracer fire fly past my head while I returned fire. I shattered my upper-femoral neck which leaves me with 40% less motion in my right leg, all while serving my country. If I were to get a call tomorrow asking me to return to duty, I would gladly do so. Its called Honor, Courage, Commitment.

You call what we say nonsense, yet have no idea who you are talking to on the other end. I will gladly fight any fight on foreign soil so it does not have to be fought in our streets, all so you can sit in YOUR comfy chair and [censored] about the war without getting shot at.

Quote:

---

Let's just say *my* body was not able to withstand basic training.

---

One of my jobs while in the Marines was to escort injured recruits to the hospital. These people fall into two groups, MRP (Medical Rehibilitation Platoon, where people would await their injury to heal and then go back to training) and RSP (Recruit Seperation Platoon), with RSP being grouped into two groups as well, severely injured recruits who received a PEB (Physical Evaluation Board), and those whom we called "The [censored]", recruits who just simply whined and cryed until the "evil government" let them go home. I wonder which group you fall into?

E1

---