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Originally posted by Andy W.:
Hrmm 92-96, that's 4 years of stagnation before he finally did something. Increasing came only after he had a huge budget surplus to burn. The surplus was due to the tech boom which he taxed the hell out of. He got lucky with the times.
I wonder if the Republican Congress had anything to do with it. 
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
Originally posted by Red1998SVT:
When Antonio said "pro-war" he was NOT referring to "people who are in favor of all wars" (Who would that be anyway, besides Pol Pot and Genghis Khan?). You chose to dodge his question by twisting it around to make it mean something else. You couldn't face your own hypocracy, so you took the coward's way out.
Say what you mean, and mean what you say. Antonio said "pro war" that means someone that loves war and fighting other countries.
Originally posted by Red1998SVT:
Haven't you heard about the severe shortage of recruits, Andy? Almost all the the armed services are falling WAY below recruiting goals, and they are stretched very thin. It's all over the news, Andy, and you know it. Your country NEEDS YOU NOW. As Antonio said, if you believe in the war so fervently, then JOIN THE ARMED SERVICES NOW. If you are an able bodied person of military age, and you don't join, then you are a hypocrite. Face it Andy. You are saying you favor the war, and it is vitally important, but you are also saying the war is not important enough for you to risk your life in it.
That is so stupid. As has been said time and time again; you can be for something without doing it yourself! Aren't you pro-gay marriage?? So does that mean you have to marry gay? Everyone that thinks the war in Iraq is the right thing to do does not need to enlist.
Originally posted by Red1998SVT:
Tell us, Andy, what is "assinine" (sic) about Antonio suggesting to you that your actions should match your words?
It was a very assinine post. All hes trying to do is piss people off with ignorant comments. He loves doing that topics like race, politics, etc.
Expressing my views is "pissing people off"? If it does not concern you then why are you getting mad? The fact of the matter is I was just curious and the people who I knew where going to say something, did. I have learned alot from this post and now I will value the opinions of certain people.
That was whole point.
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Now I hate America? That is a new one to me.
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Not really. We are fighting an ideology (I don't know if that is the correct term or not). Afghanistan and Iraq are a good place to start. Why not NK? They pose more of a long term threat (IMO) then short term. Iran will fall in time, as long as Iraq works out... IMO, its just like the dominoe affect of SE Asia... There are lots of other ways to support the GWOT besides military service. If someone really wants to help their country, get a job with a US contractor in Iraq, they are having problems with getting people to work for them (hence the 6 figure paycheck). Originally posted by Antonio:
The war against the Bin Laden is valid but I still don't see the reasons why Iraq had to be invaded. This is another discussion all together.
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Originally posted by Antonio:
DING-DING! We have a winner. That is WHOLE DAMN point. Put up or shut-up. If you don't then your opinion does not mean a damn. I never said I was Anti-War. The war against the Bin Laden is valid but I still don't see the reasons why Iraq had to be invaded. This is another discussion all together.
I expect you to be applying for a gay marriage liscence.
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I'd sign up, but they won't let me.
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Originally posted by Andy W.:
Originally posted by Red1998SVT:
Tell us, Andy, what is "assinine" (sic) about Antonio suggesting to you that your actions should match your words?
I do live by my word!
Get back to me when you think the UN should as well. Based on you argument, why should we hold all Americans to a standard the world leaders don't hold themselves too.
A blanket statement like of pro-war implies we run around looking for war. We are doing basically the same thing in Iraq that we did in Afganastan. Except Saddam was bribing world leaders and killing more of his own people.
I was with you up to this point, but I must admit, I don't get the relevance of anything you said here.
Apparently your support of the war in Iraq is well documented. So I think the question be asking of you is this ... "considering your strong support of the war in Iraq, will you be serving in the U.S. military in Iraq, and if not, why not?"
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....but he's not gay? Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
Originally posted by Antonio:
DING-DING! We have a winner. That is WHOLE DAMN point. Put up or shut-up. If you don't then your opinion does not mean a damn. I never said I was Anti-War. The war against the Bin Laden is valid but I still don't see the reasons why Iraq had to be invaded. This is another discussion all together.
I expect you to be applying for a gay marriage liscence.
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Originally posted by Antonio:
Expressing my views is "pissing people off"? If it does not concern you then why are you getting mad? The fact of the matter is I was just curious and the people who I knew where going to say something, did. I have learned alot from this post and now I will value the opinions of certain people.
That was whole point.
Ahh $hit I hope I passed antonio's test.  Your an arrogant bastard if you think anyone gives a rats ass about that.
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
....but he's not gay?
No, but he supports gay marriage. So in order to do that he must have been gay, or is gay, and apply for a gay marriage liscense or his opinion won't hold water.
"Moore has also accused the American people of being the stupidest, most naive people on the face of the Earth. And after last weekend, he's got the box office numbers to prove it!"
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Iran will fall in time, as long as Iraq works out...
This is good news.
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