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This belief comes from the same mentality as the right to bear arms. It is a very old and outdated philosophy and really has no place in the modern world. I understand that the country was founded on these beliefs but it is also necessary to change with the times.
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I see no reason whatsoever why a person born outside the US should be immediately disqualified. There's simply no logic to the requirement.
If you want to get technical, our first 7 Presidents, some considered some of the greatest thinkers and leaders this nation has ever had, weren't eligible to be President themselves.
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If he can become govener, I don't see why he couldn't become president. He is good enough for a state but not for our country? No, i am not buying it. As for his beliefs, yea there are others with his beliefs, but it only matters if they are running at the same time as he is or if they become president. Otherwise, it doesn't matter.
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Originally posted by sigma:
There's simply no logic to the requirement.
Some also think there is also no logic in the Electoral College. Yet, the Constitution establishes it. Therefore, that's the way it should be.
Without Arnold, this would be a non-issue. It should be a non-issue. It's not so much the idea of having a foreign-born president that agitates me, rather the spontaneous alteration of the Constitution that does.
The likelihood that California would go Republican does not justify an amendment to the Constitution.
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It's called relevance! Of course they wouldn't want to change it if they had NO REASON TO DO SO! The people like him and he's intelligent; a good business man to say the least. Do I want him as president? I'm unsure, but I would like to see what he has to say. So I support this.
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Some also think there is also no logic in the Electoral College. Yet, the Constitution establishes it. Therefore, that's the way it should be.
No, the Electoral College has plenty of logic behind it. The 'Natural-Born' requirement does not. This is not what I 'think', it simply is true. If it was ever challenged there's simply no way it would hold up in the Supreme Court. It's discriminatory with no basis whatsoever.
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Without Arnold, this would be a non-issue. It should be a non-issue. It's not so much the idea of having a foreign-born president that agitates me, rather the spontaneous alteration of the Constitution that does.
This has been an issue long before Arnold came along and will continue to be an issue long after he dies if it's not changed.
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The likelihood that California would go Republican does not justify an amendment to the Constitution.
If done purely for the gain of getting California to go Republican, I would agree. I do not want to see the Constitution altered solely for a particular party's political gain.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by sigma:
There's simply no logic to the requirement.
Some also think there is also no logic in the Electoral College. Yet, the Constitution establishes it. Therefore, that's the way it should be.
Without Arnold, this would be a non-issue. It should be a non-issue. It's not so much the idea of having a foreign-born president that agitates me, rather the spontaneous alteration of the Constitution that does.
The likelihood that California would go Republican does not justify an amendment to the Constitution.
 
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i'd have to see some historical writings on the issue, but imo, the concept of a foreign-born president opens up a possibility for a operative/plant from another country to be groomed to debilitate the country. is it likely? no. possible? yes. and thats enough reason for me to leave the constitution alone. fwiw, i like arnold. but i don't think he has that great of a grasp on world economics and foreign diplomacy. but then again, it's not like we've never had a puppet in office... 
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Originally posted by sigma:
No, the Electoral College has plenty of logic behind it. The 'Natural-Born' requirement does not. This is not what I 'think', it simply is true. If it was ever challenged there's simply no way it would hold up in the Supreme Court. It's discriminatory with no basis whatsoever.
That you have to be a natural-born citizen in order to be president is illogical? If the Supreme Court were to rule it, and they fulfilled their duty to uphold the Constitution, then it would not be overturned. If you applied your logic of discrimination universally, then you would have to say preventing anyone on earth from running for president is discriminatory.
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This has been an issue long before Arnold came along and will continue to be an issue long after he dies if it's not changed.
I've never heard it being talked about so serious. I'm guessing our definitions of 'issue' are slightly conflicting.
But this argument is rather ridiculous. This "issue" is simply the hype du jour.
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