Cool, thanks. I listened to an Infinity 12" sub at Circuit City that I liked today but don't want to pay those folks to much. I'm cheap what can i say...hehe. At a place down the street from them I can get a cheapo Crunch amp that is rated
500x2@4, 2 Audiopipe 12" subs and a sealed box for 280 bucks. I don't care if they hear me 10 blocks away as long as I get some decent sounding bass in the car. I will probably have the gain on the amp turned down a little anyways. The subs are rated 375w rms if I remember right. I've no experience with the Audiopipes but have heard some higher end subs that didn't sound all that great to me but maybe were designed for all out loudness anyway.
Peace !