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If I purchased an item from the U.S. online how is duty calculated. I was looking to make a purchase that is about $1000.00 Canadian in car parts. I know I would have to pay GST and PST, but is duty a percentage of the price (value). Is there anyway around this?


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My understanding is that duty is the GST/PST that you pay. On top of that you will have brokerage fees and most likely handling fees. Only way around the taxes is to have it shipped from an individual and not a company and have the package marked as a gift for which taxes do not apply. This however will not always work. There is a customs broker among us so I will let her speak up.


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GST / PST and even brokerage fee (eg; UPS) for sure.

There's no way to avoid duty unless you want to smuggle something in; but I seem to recall that the amount of the duty will depend on the country of origin of the part.

Car parts made in the U.S. shouldn't be subject to any duty at all under NAFTA; however, parts made in Taiwan which I beleive no longer enjoys 'Most Favoured Nation' status, might have a duty of 6 or 10% (stab in the dark guess).

Check out the CRA website and see if they've got anything on it.

Canada Revenue Agency (they collect duty)

Edit: Duty is in addition to GST / PST brokerage etc. - you just don't see it that often any more, because we import so much that's made in the U.S. which is duty free.

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The information might actually be under Canada Border Services Agency


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For parts not of US origin, duty is charged, as mentioned, based on some table or formula. There is a customs charge, based on Canada Customs, brokerage fees, which vary according to the shipper and brokerage firm used, then GST/PST. All of this is based on the Canadian value converted from US declared value on the package.

When you bring in a part yourself, expect to pay 30% on top of the converted Canadian value (higher dollar items), and that's a general ball park of your final cost. The ratio increases for smaller parts, as there is always a minimum charge for brokerage.

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Originally posted by Alex T.:
If I purchased an item from the U.S. online how is duty calculated. I was looking to make a purchase that is about $1000.00 Canadian in car parts. I know I would have to pay GST and PST, but is duty a percentage of the price (value). Is there anyway around this?





You only ever pay GST, 7%, on goods not sold in Ontario. You only pay PST on goods sold in the same province as you, if it applies.

If you have it shipped via courier then you will pay a brokerage fee, which I usually find to be about $45 or so.

For delivery, i use UPS expedited. It costs a little bit more, but you don't pay brokerage. It usually works out a little different.

So .... if you are purchasing $1000 goods. You will pay GST to the tune of $70
Brokerage by the shipping company will probably cost you about $45

You will ALWAYS pay duty unless you smuggle the parts in.

You could travel to the states and have the work done there, and simply not declare it. Although not technically, legally correct, you could get away with this as you aren't bringing a big box of parts in, as they have been replaced.



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The only way I avoid paying duty and taxes etc. (when I say avoid - I mean doing this legally) is to bring the component through yourself - and this still not a for sure thing.

I travel the US/Canadian border daily and have bought all kinds of Automotive items through without having to pay anything on them, and I always claim everything I bring through (as my job is at stake if I was to ever smuggle something and get caught). It all depends on what the person working at the booth thinks.

You may be pushing the evelope at $1000 dollar though, although I have been with people that have claimed and brought through items with that value through without having to pay anything (they were automotive related parts as well.). The first thing they will ask you is whether they are for personal or business use.

Lucky for you the exchage rate is low so now is the time to buy parts regarless. Good luck!

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Isn't there a minimum limit before they charge duty on things you bring through personally? $350 is a figure that sticks in my mind, but I'm not sure where it came from.
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Originally posted by Alex T.:
If I purchased an item from the U.S. online how is duty calculated. I was looking to make a purchase that is about $1000.00 Canadian in car parts. I know I would have to pay GST and PST, but is duty a percentage of the price (value). Is there anyway around this?





What is the item? Shipping from a company, I presume?

Duty is calculated by taking the cost, expressed as Canadian dollars and applying a percentage rate. Add that duty value to the cost. This is call the value for tax. Now assess GST. (ya sorry, it's a compounded grab). Assess PST based on that value for tax also (PST is not a compounded tax).
ie: 1000.00 x 6% duty = $60. Value for tax 1060 + gst (74.20) + pst (84.80). Total payable = 219.00.

Ok.. Depending on the item, it may or may not qualify for benefits under the NAFTA programme, thereby either completely remitting the duty (ie: Zero percent) or providing an abatement/reduction of same.

If you have goods shipped to an individual in Ontario, that individual will pay duty (where applicable), GST and PST. Only way "around" the PST is for the goods to be "sold to" a company.

Shipping via Postal service provides you no protection from the collection of duties and taxes. LOL In fact, more oft than not the declaration is flawed and the end user paid more than actually required. This is generally due to incorrect currency declared or failure to utilize benefits of NAFTA where it is legally applicable. There is always a little kick ($5-15) for the postal service for handling the clearance.

Use of "air" service from UPS, Fed Ex etc will mean they "eat" the brokerage fees. But at what cost? Outrageous rates?

Ok, the "GIFT" angles goes like this. A person may receive a gift of any value. A gift's valuation is reduced by $40 Canadian (like an allowance).. any duty/taxes are assessed on that residual value. Caution, remember, a gift doesn't come from a company to an individual. It's a person to person "transaction". *note* the allowance was $40 last time I handled personal shipments, it may well have increased to $60.

If that helps, great. If you require further clarification or just buzz.
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Thanks Michelle, I was hoping you would offer you expert advice. I'm glad to see there is another Corrie junkie in here with me. I hate being 9 months behind the actual show, I'm always reading ahead on Corrie.net.


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