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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Nothing wrong with the 350z, just a srt4 is faster,cheaper, cheaper to build up, and just as reliable.




mmmm....Im gonna hafta disagree on that one. i dont think any modern chrysler is as reliable as any modern nissan. after much experience, both personal and through friends, I dont think any domestic CAR is as reliable as any toyota, honda, or nissan (w/ the exception of the occassional lemons as yo pointed out earlier). not that i would let that completely stop me from buying a car. Hell, i bought a contour. i love this thing, so its worth any additional troubles (i hope) i may encounter.

i like the neon turbo. im not sure id pay that much and would maybe take a PT turbo just cuz it has more amenities than the neon. they run nearly as fast too. beyond that, im extremely skeptical about buying any chrysler product no matter how cool it is. For that amount, i would much rather buy a Sentra SEr even though theyre slower. I would be completely comfortable it would last for another 100k miles while suffering abuse. And with the money you save from the neon, you could maybe even slap a turbo on it.


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Gonna have to disagree with your disagreement. Well maybe overall nissans r more reliable, but not in this case. And I also meant srt4 more reliable than 350z when modding. I would never own a new se-r. One friend is on his third engine, other on second, cat breaks apart and gets sucked into engine and destroys it. Friend with third engine now has a header since he is out of warranty. Also the 02 had tranny trouble,,, he also got 03 tranny stuff. Also friend had screw come out of butterflies and go into a cylinder, all the other screws were loose as well:


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Yeah, unfortunately I have to agree with kermit on the sentra
I was looking into getting an SER spec V because of the engine (I think it is the same motor as in the older infinity cars)displacement, torque etc. But their reliability has gone down the tubes over the past couple of years. A friend has the base model (SE?), the dealer wanted $700 canadian for a starter. The 6 sp tranny problems were dealt with for the 2004 year, when they added the ugly front and rims.

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Originally posted by svt4stv:
mmmm....Im gonna hafta disagree on that one. i dont think any modern chrysler is as reliable as any modern nissan. after much experience, both personal and through friends, I dont think any domestic CAR is as reliable as any toyota, honda, or nissan (w/ the exception of the occassional lemons as yo pointed out earlier)...



svt4svt, the last figures I saw, earlier this year, showed that that is more of a myth than a reality.

For sometime now all two/three US automakers have been so close to Toyota, Honda and Nissan in measured quality control standards using number of defects per 100 units produced that they are all within 0.1 to 0.5 of each other IIRC.

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and dont forget those figured may even be skewed considering a number of japanese auto manufactuers fail to 'own up' to their factory defects in order to save face. (and to keep all those silly americans thinking they make excellent autos that never break)


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So what kind of issues Spec V issues are in the 2004 models? My friend has a brand new 2k4 and I'd like to know what he should look out for. That ungrateful bastard probably wouldn't believe what I'd tell him anyway but it'd be nice to laugh in his face once his engine dies and say "I told you so... you bastard".


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so i guess when some jap company by the name of honda screwed up the syncros in the all new 99 SI's, and told everyone that had a problem with it to come in and they would fix it, is trying to hide something. for some reason i dont think that hurt honda's name or the SI's name cause those damn99-00's still sell for 11,12,13g's even now and they are freagin 6 years old.

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Yeah, I'm going to agree with Mr. Cougar here. My neighbor just brought home a black '99 Civic Si coupe with 76,000 miles on it. I asked him how much he paid and he said $13,700...and that was after negotiation.

Hell, I could get two decent CSVTs for that! And turbocharge the bejeezus out of one while I'm at it!

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Originally posted by GrandMasterKhan:
and dont forget those figured may even be skewed considering a number of japanese auto manufactuers fail to 'own up' to their factory defects in order to save face. (and to keep all those silly americans thinking they make excellent autos that never break)




This is true. My wife owns a 98 accord 4 cylinder. Very reliable but it has had it's quirks. It has had problems with transmission and clutch 'way before it should have' according to our family honda mechanic. I did a search on 98 accord transmission problesm and sure enough, there were many cases, complaints filed, and even an Internal Technical bulliten, yet Honda fails to acknowledge it and issue a recall. Could you imagine what that would cost them. There are an aweful lot of 98 accords on the road. I found so many people on car opinion sites etc talking about this problem, it actually seemed to be more common than our tranny issues with the contour/mystique.


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yes it would cost them a boatload of money to recall a tranny......yah know kinda like it would cost ford a lot of money to replace the syncro's in my 99 tranny(which have proven to be weaker than the post 2000's). i dont blame them i wouldnt either. even though i own one and i love it very much i still hate fords.


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