I've driven both cars, I thought you might assume that from the fact that my brothers kid owns one. However I don't own the car, like you do not. My brother's kid does. I see and hear about it all the time, him being my brothers kid. He is the one driving it everyday and paying for the repairs, not me. You are right, every car model has their lemons. Some have more than others, again consult consumer reports. I wasn't saying they are pos, and I am not blindly bashing the car. Any car I will take the time to 'bash' will be one with which I have had personal, or close personal experience with through friends/family. I am over at my brothers house almost every weekend tinkering on cars, including the before mentioned. I've built engines with the help of my brother (who has been putting cars together for about 15 years). You don't have to have an engineering degree to know the ins and out of what makes a car tick or go fast, and you don't necessarily have to own a car or work on it to know whether or not the car will be reliable or how much value it will retain when you sell it. That is what consumer reports magazine is for. The neon and z are totally different cars. I've driven both cars (best friend has one which I am in all the time, and have worked on) and I would buy a used z over a new srt anyday, but that is just my personal preference. If I am going to drop that much cash, I am not going to buy a car that looks like a jacked up tonka toy over a car that looks like the z. 5k more for the z is actually a deal if you ask me. The neon is made for straight line acceleration. Reminds me of the Omni GLH.
anyway, to each his own....
