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Actually, I deserve the scolding if I were blindly bashing a car, but my comments come from experience and observation (the proven scientific method). My brother's kid has a wrx, and his best friend an srt-r. They drive them like kids do, but they are supposed to take the abuse. The 'bulletproof' wrx was on 3 cylinders and blew the turbo. The srt has been in the shop already for various things...turbo noise that is 'not normal' and posible head gasket problem. These cars are fast cars, and the parts have been beefed up to take the power, but they are only as good as the people who put them together. I had a regular neon for a year and a half and drove it like an old lady, still had more problems than I should have had. There is a reason why their resale is so low.
You said it yourself, they are a 'cheap' performance car. What car wouldn't perform the way the srt does considering the power to weight ratio of the vehicle. An inexpensive performance car would be a nissan 350z if you want a good combination of price, performance, quality, style etc.
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So your brother's kid's friend owns one... Not very close personal experience there. I don't own one, but my best friend does, I've driven it, ride in it often, and have worked on it. ANY car can have problems if not treated right and there is always an occasional lemon of ANY brand. My guess is the kid isn't treating it right. The cars can be driven hard, but any car can be driven too hard, which the kid is most likely doing. 350z cost atleast $5k more than a srt4 and is not quite as fast or as cheap to make even faster. It's a different level.
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yeah its a different level...the 350z is actually a nice car....the srt-4 is a cheap pos...yeah its fast but that is all it has to offer...it is still ugly as a regular neon,and as cheaply made.....just because its fast and cheap so what...
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How it looks is individual taste, I neither like nor dislike its looks.
Again, we have another unexperienced, talk out your butt kinda person here. The interior, as I said isn't the best, but I have also seen worse. The car is put together fairly well, with the majority of the engineering put into the important things: engine, tranny, suspension, and aerodynamics. None of these were skimped on. Just because it's fast and cheap, well people buy it and have a fast and cheap car that's what.
Before you comment on it again, research the car, drive one, ride in one, work on one. Seems like some people are just angry that there is a car that is reliable, cheap, and can beat out more expensive cars. Not sure why people feel this way, but that's way it seems.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
How it looks is individual taste, I neither like nor dislike its looks.
Again, we have another unexperienced, talk out your butt kinda person here. The interior, as I said isn't the best, but I have also seen worse. The car is put together fairly well, with the majority of the engineering put into the important things: engine, tranny, suspension, and aerodynamics. None of these were skimped on. Just because it's fast and cheap, well people buy it and have a fast and cheap car that's what.
Before you comment on it again, research the car, drive one, ride in one, work on one. Seems like some people are just angry that there is a car that is reliable, cheap, and can beat out more expensive cars. Not sure why people feel this way, but that's way it seems.
for one just because one of your butt buddies has one you chime in every time one is mentioned...it also seems to me like you have a friend that has every kind of car ever mentioned on this site  and for your info little boy i have driven the dogs**t out of one,that belongs to my brother in law...and like i said it is fast but that's it....the interior is cramped and just as cheap looking as a regular neon,and wow it has a little wing and a different front bumper cover,but other than that it still looks like a regular neon.....
i will give it props because it does run like a bat out of hell....and it will run neck and neck with my car,would probably be a little faster than me with a better driver....also a friend with a '00 stang gt got his a$$ handed to him by one...i was there,and i laughed my a$$ off,because he thought it was just a neon,he didn't even know what an srt was...
and don't come on here and whine that i'm just angry that its a fast cheap car(which cheap being a word you even used)that is what i said....i said it was fast...and once you get past the quickness of it it is still a cheaply made NEON with a turbo period...the looks suck,and so does the interior.....
and i didn't know you were a master mechanic either....what kind of work did you even do on one?????and even if you did work on one since when does that make you an expert on the car....you know i've ignored alot of stupid crap you spit out on here because you are a fellow southeast ceger,and some of the people i like on there,also like you for some reason,but contrary to what you believe you are not an expert on anything but having a high post count on ceg....and most of your posts are immature babble,and i'm sure i'm not the only one on here that thinks you need 
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I've driven both cars, I thought you might assume that from the fact that my brothers kid owns one. However I don't own the car, like you do not. My brother's kid does. I see and hear about it all the time, him being my brothers kid. He is the one driving it everyday and paying for the repairs, not me. You are right, every car model has their lemons. Some have more than others, again consult consumer reports. I wasn't saying they are pos, and I am not blindly bashing the car. Any car I will take the time to 'bash' will be one with which I have had personal, or close personal experience with through friends/family. I am over at my brothers house almost every weekend tinkering on cars, including the before mentioned. I've built engines with the help of my brother (who has been putting cars together for about 15 years). You don't have to have an engineering degree to know the ins and out of what makes a car tick or go fast, and you don't necessarily have to own a car or work on it to know whether or not the car will be reliable or how much value it will retain when you sell it. That is what consumer reports magazine is for. The neon and z are totally different cars. I've driven both cars (best friend has one which I am in all the time, and have worked on) and I would buy a used z over a new srt anyday, but that is just my personal preference. If I am going to drop that much cash, I am not going to buy a car that looks like a jacked up tonka toy over a car that looks like the z. 5k more for the z is actually a deal if you ask me. The neon is made for straight line acceleration. Reminds me of the Omni GLH.
anyway, to each his own....
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ouch kremit = owned by dutchie....and i also agree with dutchie i would take a used z which stock for stock is just about as fast as an srt4,and outshines it in ANY other catagory as well IMO.....
btw dutchie do you have any pics of your 240z...i am thinking about a 70's 240 as a project car...sounds like yours is pretty sick...
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Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
ouch kremit = owned by dutchie....and i also agree with dutchie i would take a used z which stock for stock is just about as fast as an srt4,and outshines it in ANY other catagory as well IMO.....
btw dutchie do you have any pics of your 240z...i am thinking about a 70's 240 as a project car...sounds like yours is pretty sick...
Yep,I have some kicking around. I'll have to post them tonight or tomorrow. They are great cars to work on and modify if you can find one with no rust, which is a challenge up here in Canada.
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Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
ouch kremit = owned by dutchie....and i also agree with dutchie i would take a used z which stock for stock is just about as fast as an srt4,and outshines it in ANY other catagory as well IMO.....
You are kidding right?
No Z car was remotely close to 14's (most 16's) until the twin turbo version in the early 90's. Even with it's HP it still barely made it because it had become just so damn portly. (i.e. luxo-barge sports coupe)
I do agree the early year Z cars would be a great project though. The hardest part is finding one worth building and then finding suitable parts. Then there is the whole $$$ factor of building a rare car. I know all about that.
It's worth it if you have the patience and money though. I would take unique over common place any day! 
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I think when he says 'Z' Greg he's refering to the 350.... Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
ouch kremit = owned by dutchie....and i also agree with dutchie i would take a used z which stock for stock is just about as fast as an srt4,and outshines it in ANY other catagory as well IMO.....
You are kidding right?
No Z car was remotely close to 14's (most 16's) until the twin turbo version in the early 90's. Even with it's HP it still barely made it because it had become just so damn portly. (i.e. luxo-barge sports coupe)
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