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I wouldn't go so far as to say a Turbo CSVT will do 11.9's. A RWD car weighing 3000-3200lbs with 400RWHP should be in that range.. Most of the Turbo Contours are doing mid to low 300 HP with pump gas. That is still enough to put you into the 12's no problem, just need someone to prove it.

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Considering most Neons kick the shhh out of ZX2's and ZX3's I guess you wouldn't know how 150hp+ wheel hp and 135lbs of torque moves a 2250lbs chassis with driver.

In my experience thats mid 14's at 93-94mph, what's your ZX2 run?

That's with a couple of bolt-ons and OEM parts btw

A dead stock CSVT is a low 15 second car. That in my est. makes a modified POS Plymouth Neon faster than a CSVT and that's with blowing a head gasket in the process....

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Originally posted by Anthony Thomas:
Considering most Neons kick the shhh out of ZX2's and ZX3's I guess you wouldn't know how 150hp+ wheel hp and 135lbs of torque moves a 2250lbs chassis with driver.

In my experience thats mid 14's at 93-94mph, what's your ZX2 run?

That's with a couple of bolt-ons and OEM parts btw

A dead stock CSVT is a low 15 second car. That in my est. makes a modified POS Plymouth Neon faster than a CSVT and that's with blowing a head gasket in the process....

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In no way did I play off my ZX2 as better than your Neon, so pulling my car into the argument will do you no good.

I have no intention of drag racing a car intended to be economical.

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actually I would classify a zx2 and neon in the same class...oh wait, I would put the focus in that same class too.

But I do agree it doesn't take much when your car is so light...


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Originally posted by SAV-ZX2:
Originally posted by Anthony Thomas:

About my Neon, it already faster than most Tours anyway because its some 500lbs lighter. After this current engine swap is completed, it will put me around 150hp at wheeels ...




150 at the wheels. woOt!!! You'll surely kick the [censored] out of a CSVT.

I was sold on your post until I read this.





Where does 150 HP at the wheels put a stock weight ZX2? At just above 130 at the wheels ZX2's run 15.0's and 15.1's ons treet tires. Neons with the 3.94 trans run similar speeds with similar power. 150 at the wheels should put both the ZX2 and neon well into the 14's. I own both a ZX2 and '95 SOHC neon and as far as straight line stuff goes, with similar power, they are close in acceleration. You have to think of it relative to what you know and not maks assumptions.

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Yet again, people miss the sarcasm in my post.

I know exactly what 150 whp would do to a Neon, but it wouldn't exactly be DEADLY fast. Sure it'd be quick. I'll agree with that.

I own a ZX2 as well, obviously. With the ATX it feels nice and peppy, but not 15.0 ET peppy. Please show some timeslips. I'm interested.

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I sensed no sarcasm, I got the same impression.


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It will be hard to get into the 12s without at least 260+hp at the wheels. Don't forget we are talking camaro SS/ svt cobra territory here. If you want a car that will do that, get something that is made for that. The contour is a balance of handling, sound, speed. You compromise to get that balance. On the other hand, buy an srt neon, and you can beat a lot of other cars on the road, but I am sure parts will be falling off by around 30k.

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On the other hand, buy an srt neon, and you can beat a lot of other cars on the road, but I am sure parts will be falling off by around 30k.




VERY doubtful. But thanks for the blind bashing of a relatively cheap performance car.


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Originally posted by JonnySVT:
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On the other hand, buy an srt neon, and you can beat a lot of other cars on the road, but I am sure parts will be falling off by around 30k.




VERY doubtful. But thanks for the blind bashing of a relatively cheap performance car.



Agreed very doubtful. Ever drive one dutchie? Sure the interior parts are the best, but not the worst, and the engine and tranny are gooood.


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