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Originally posted by ScottK:
I don't think even our 400 hp 'tours are laying down 12's yet due to launch troubles.
burritasvt is a good example. whenever he is able to get axles that won't break on the first run he may just be in the 12's.
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Originally posted by CSVT1214:
Originally posted by FreeShyne:
Originally posted by Anthony Thomas:
Please no - "You should buy a Mustang post" If I bought a Stang when I was done it would do wheel stands but get 4mpg in the process, no thanks.
I'm interested in making a neat sedan whoop butt on the mean streets of Southern California and occasional track use. That way I don't have rent a car when I feel like my Neon is too edgey for dates.
Thanks
Get an M5  ...Hey, I didn't say get a Mustang. What the hell do you mean by your neon is "too edgey for dates". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I hope that is sarcasm. Is this a regular neon or an SRT-4? If it is an SRT then your problem would already be solved. If it is a regular neon,well, then you should get rid of it, it is just way too edgey.
Check his sig, your answer is in there.
He recently added that...Wasn't there when I posted.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by GrandMasterKhan:
how Light are we talking here?
100lbs, you supposedly can't remove more weight than that. 
If you removed your rock filled head you could drop another 100 easily.  
That "100lbs" basis was based on all the easily removable parts. Jack, spare, inner trunk siding & extras, rear seat back & bottom, and all misc junk in the car.
There definitely are other ways to lower the vehicles weight however they don't "just happen" before going to the track though.
(i.e. headers for precats, aftermarket Y for stock, CF hood, 13lb battery, removing extra metal brackets, et cetera)
Seems like ur the one with rocks... Those extra pounds can be removed. Just because you don't spend the time doing doesn't mean it's not doable. ONCE AGAIN, if you haven't done it, doesn't mean it's impossible.
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Originally posted by acrdklr:
Originally posted by ScottK:
I don't think even our 400 hp 'tours are laying down 12's yet due to launch troubles.
burritasvt is a good example. whenever he is able to get axles that won't break on the first run he may just be in the 12's.
I talked to DSS on a seperate occasion and asked about that. He said the shaft that broke was a stage I piece that accidently got put on a stage II set up.
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Thanks Demon -
Hey you going to throw the GM Racing Supercharger for the Ecotec on your wife's Z24 sedan?
On topic -
Seems to me that tour owners aren't the drag racing types. I remember when I got my first Neon, everybody use to say "ya its only good for autocrossing and road racing". Given how well the car was and still is doing on a club local level in both autocross and SCCA Showroom Stock. That's simply not the case as there are plenty of 13,12,11,10 and now 9 second "street" cars and low 8 second drag only Neons.
The curb weight of the tour is right inline with other cars in its class. Its roughly 200lbs more than the average Acura RSX and about 300lbs more than a 2nd gen Interga.
Power to Weight doesn't seem like the issue, but traction might be. Seems nobody used drag radials or even tries to use slicks. Slicks are actually easier on FWD drivetrain because it of the bias-ply contruction doesn't allow for wheel hop, the number 1 killer of transmissions, gears and axles on FWD in drag racing.
Glad to see you can get a Tour to run 13's. Makes sense to me since there a few 13 second Mazda Probes, even though the Mazda engine is used the traits between both engines are the same.
Now if you an N/A Tour can run 13's, there's no reason the turbo cars shouldn't run 11's in street trim.
As for a turbo, naa I'm move of a supercharger kinda guy, especially when its an option.
About my Neon, it already faster than most Tours anyway because its some 500lbs lighter. After this current engine swap is completed, it will put me around 150hp at wheeels and have another block waiting for Eagle rods and Wiseco pistons and I haven't decided on a turbo system or nitrous or even both on the car.
"Edgy" in my terms is showing up to a 3-4 star resturant with a date and jumping out of my lower Neon with a nice exhaust tone I might add. Just seems a tad imature for events like that. A Contour is bit more mature but still fun to drive and fun to modify. I've always wanted a SVT anyway...
Thanks for the insite.
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Originally posted by Anthony Thomas:
About my Neon, it already faster than most Tours anyway because its some 500lbs lighter. After this current engine swap is completed, it will put me around 150hp at wheeels ...
150 at the wheels. woOt!!! You'll surely kick the [censored] out of a CSVT.
I was sold on your post until I read this.
Otherwise, there's reasons we haven't gotten a CSVT into 11s territory. The cars are simply just too delicate and nobody yet has the balls to risk breaking something severe.
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I don't think there's any reason to rip on this guy.
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Someone with a bullet proof tranny, reinforced roll restrictors, rock solid rear suspension, upgraded driveshafts, an LSD, a set of Mickey Thompsons and 400hp might break into the low 12's, high 11's, but that basically means having a car that's only good for the strip. And IMHO that's not what the Contour and it's owners on this board are about. I just want an all round fast car - with a concentration on Auto-X'ing.....and I'm getting there. Mind you with "only" ~300hp, I'm not going to see 12's any time soon. My poor tires already struggle with putting down the power I have, during a launch and powering out of tight corners. Nonetheless, I will say that my car is a fun street car with more than enough anbility to embarass many other high hp cars on the road. 
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Upgraded halfshafts are BEYOND a must.  Maybe solid billet axles.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Upgraded halfshafts are BEYOND a must.
Maybe solid billet axles.
Does somebody have first hand experience here with breaking a halfshaft? 
I may or may not have heard that through the grapevine 
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