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Small scale shakeups yes, this looks like an overhaul.
Stress or family issues? BS! There's something else behind this especially if the whole afore mentioned flock leaves. Elected officials at this level surrendered a "normal" family life a long time ago.
The cabinet IS the president! Dubya is the face not the brains.
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Originally posted by alex_96GL:
 What was supposed to happen to GWB?
I think you are confused. Probably another bridge... and may be over another river. So may be not Patriot Act either?
I am definitely confused, because I have no idea what your post is supposed to mean.
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uh, ok... presumably it was B-klyn bridge. that's on the other side of Manhattan  IMO, the story was all too fishy to believe it in the 1st place. but then again, if you live in NYC you get an altogether different perspective of the war on terror, so I'm probably overly cynical
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Small scale shakeups yes, this looks like an overhaul.
Stress or family issues? BS! There's something else behind this especially if the whole afore mentioned flock leaves. Elected officials at this level surrendered a "normal" family life a long time ago.
The cabinet IS the president! Dubya is the face not the brains.
Cabinet appointees are not elected officials FYI, they are appointed cabinet positions chosen BY elected officials. Why everyone buys into the conspiracy theory crap about "there's gotta be something else behind this" really escapes me. For all of our thinking that other people's lives are so drastically different than our own, people are largely the same, whether in the private or public sectors. Is there always something else going on behind the scenes in your own life that causes several other people to make certain decisions in their lives that are close to you? Micro to macro is applicable here.
Sure it's possible there's an agenda at work, but these cabinet posts in many cases aren't related to one another directly so it's hard to make that argument. Could be that the folks just disagree with the commander in chief, could be that they're just plain tired and want to get away from it all. Remember that many of the cabinet members led very successful lives outside of their public service commitments and simply may feel it's time to get back to their "normal" life. This was the original intent of limited terms for all offices. People that were successful in the private sector dedicated a small portion of their lives to serving in the public sector, then returned to their private lives after the fact. This practice minimized gov't corruption because there were no interests to be bought. Not the case in today's unlimited term Congress and Senate.
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
The cabinet IS the president! Dubya is the face not the brains.
Is this the way liberals are looking at this election..
"We did not win but with the cabinet gone we did not lose either. Which means we won! Just like in 2000. So essentially, we have controlled the white house for the last 12 years, except for the last 4 years "W"s face was there. This can only be proof that the American public heartily endorses our liberal adgenda"
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Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
Originally posted by RT and his SE:
The cabinet IS the president! Dubya is the face not the brains.
Is this the way liberals are looking at this election..
"We did not win but with the cabinet gone we did not lose either. Which means we won! Just like in 2000. So essentially, we have controlled the white house for the last 12 years, except for the last 4 years "W"s face was there. This can only be proof that the American public heartily endorses our liberal adgenda"
So Georgie's cabinet was appointed by Liberals now?
Let me see if I can help you a little. Myself as a concerned American citizen wants to know why the people who have been running our country for the last 4 years now suddenly want out. One, two maybe three people leaving I would say ok but if all these people leave it looks like a vote of no confidence. The question is legitimate no matter what side of the aisle you stand on.
Dan, if you want to start a Conservative vs Liberal pissing match go start your own thread.
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Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
Is this the way liberals are looking at this election..
If so, they're in for quite the reality check. John McIntyre of RealClearPolitics.com sums it up nicely:
Originally posted by John McIntyre, RCP:
But what really makes Democrats and the liberal elites sick is they know what George W. Bush is going to do with this hard fought victory. They saw him take a 500,000 popular vote loss and ram through massive tax cut after massive tax cut. They saw him in a post 9/11 world radically shift American foreign policy to embrace the doctrine of American preemption and military dominance. They know full well what George W. Bush can do.
For an average President, a 51-48 win wouldn't be that big of a deal. For this President, however, a majority of the popular vote coupled with expanded majorities in Congress is all he needs to permanently change the political course of this country.
Democrats know that on a whole host of policy issues a world of hurt is coming their way. Private accounts for Social Security, medical savings accounts, tax simplification, tort reform and much, much more are all in the pipeline.
And let's not kid ourselves with the idea that any of this is going to be bipartisan. There will be no negotiation with the Nancy Pelosis, Charlie Rangels or Barbara Boxers in this Congress. The bipartisanship will come from Red State Democratic Senators who have seen what happened to their former Red State Democratic Senators who obstruct and side with the far Left.
We haven't even mentioned the Big Kahuna: the Supreme Court. In many ways the battle for the Supreme Court is the single most important issue. Democrats know they were lucky to go four years and not have a single appointment from President Bush. They won't be so fortunate this time.
With 55 Republican Senators and the ghost of Tom Daschle echoing in the Senate chamber, President Bush is going to seriously reshape the third branch of our government. While the press may reduce this to being all about abortion, in reality abortion and Roe vs. Wade will only be a very small part of what the Supreme Court is going to have the final say over in the next 30 years. And liberals know that it is not just the three or four appointments to the High Court, but the dozens, even hundreds of lifetime appointments to the entire Federal bench that will lock in conservative jurisprudence for an entire generation.
This brings us back full circle to how devastating to liberals that 135,000 vote margin in the Buckeye state will be to the future course of this country. Was this a mandate or a landslide for President Bush? No. But it was one of the most consequential elections in this nation's history, the ramifications of which will be felt for decades. And behind all the vitriol, blather and post-election spin; that sick feeling among Democrats is because they know this to be true.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
Paranoid that Ashcroft might get anywhere near a Supreme Court seat.
My thought exactly...
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
Is this the way liberals are looking at this election..
If so, they're in for quite the reality check. John McIntyre of RealClearPolitics.com sums it up nicely:
Originally posted by John McIntyre, RCP:
But what really makes Democrats and the liberal elites sick is they know what George W. Bush is going to do with this hard fought victory. They saw him take a 500,000 popular vote loss and ram through massive tax cut after massive tax cut. They saw him in a post 9/11 world radically shift American foreign policy to embrace the doctrine of American preemption and military dominance. They know full well what George W. Bush can do.
For an average President, a 51-48 win wouldn't be that big of a deal. For this President, however, a majority of the popular vote coupled with expanded majorities in Congress is all he needs to permanently change the political course of this country.
Democrats know that on a whole host of policy issues a world of hurt is coming their way. Private accounts for Social Security, medical savings accounts, tax simplification, tort reform and much, much more are all in the pipeline.
And let's not kid ourselves with the idea that any of this is going to be bipartisan. There will be no negotiation with the Nancy Pelosis, Charlie Rangels or Barbara Boxers in this Congress. The bipartisanship will come from Red State Democratic Senators who have seen what happened to their former Red State Democratic Senators who obstruct and side with the far Left.
We haven't even mentioned the Big Kahuna: the Supreme Court. In many ways the battle for the Supreme Court is the single most important issue. Democrats know they were lucky to go four years and not have a single appointment from President Bush. They won't be so fortunate this time.
With 55 Republican Senators and the ghost of Tom Daschle echoing in the Senate chamber, President Bush is going to seriously reshape the third branch of our government. While the press may reduce this to being all about abortion, in reality abortion and Roe vs. Wade will only be a very small part of what the Supreme Court is going to have the final say over in the next 30 years. And liberals know that it is not just the three or four appointments to the High Court, but the dozens, even hundreds of lifetime appointments to the entire Federal bench that will lock in conservative jurisprudence for an entire generation.
This brings us back full circle to how devastating to liberals that 135,000 vote margin in the Buckeye state will be to the future course of this country. Was this a mandate or a landslide for President Bush? No. But it was one of the most consequential elections in this nation's history, the ramifications of which will be felt for decades. And behind all the vitriol, blather and post-election spin; that sick feeling among Democrats is because they know this to be true.
Link to rest of article.
Hurrah for the single party system! Wait that been tried before. Well thank God we had the we had the most powerful country in the free world to show them the error of their ways! 
So who will show us?
"We have met the enemy and they are ours."
I can see where this has nothing to do with the topic other than to inflate your little conservative chubbies. So thanks for playing.
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Thank God we live in a country where the biggest crisis of the day is the changing of the guard in GW's cabinet.
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