Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
"no one said you had to buy them."
Bret, ahh now I see. You are still trying to sell the headers. I have been simply arguing that there is ZERO proof that long tube headers add substantial tourque to a Contour. Perhaps they DO, unfortunately, your tuner's professed skill & your bet does adds not a shread of proof. But your offer to put money on it IS interesting. Perhaps you could guarentee the buyer the 20/20 minimum gain OR you would pay for the headers/install/dyno tune? Might move thoes suckers a bit faster eehh.
Dan you are incorrect about no proof, it has been proved and documented many years ago that long tube EQUEL lenght headers DO boost tourqe. The problem with all the coments being made nowadays[ie they dont seem to work on this car or they really dont help]is the fact that they were built with NO regard to correct and proper design! Did you know that making a set of headers with the primary tubes as small as 1/8 of an inch to large can cause as much as a 50 ft. lbs. drop in torque as compaired to a set with the proper dimension? Thats why I asked for the dimensions on the headers, so I can do the math. I bet you there not even close!
