Originally posted by Speed Demon:
you sir are a fricking dolt


Let's see if I get this straight. I am the only one so far to use any official U.S. government numbers (CIA and CPA) to demonstrate the size of the insurgency. And what's the response? - "I was there, the government is lieing - just like they did in Viet Nam." So by your definition I guess that means that anybody who believes what the U.S. government says is a dolt.

Originally posted by Speed Demon:
When sandman says every male over 17 he's telling you every male over 17 (for the sake of argument) has a gun. Not every male over 17 is an insurgent.


And your point about the number of guns is exactly what? That one person can own more than one gun? That guns kill people? That sounds like something Michael Moore would say. I thought it was people killed people. Wouldn't that be the number to focus on? That's the point I'm making.

Originally posted by Speed Demon:
and if your conspiracy theory was somehow correct you wouldnt force a withdrawl, you'd force a full force military campaign vs. a counter-insurgency.


MY conspiracy theory!!?? That's Sandmans theory not mine - he's claiming the CIA and the Army are lieing to people about the size of the insurgency. Oh wait - that's not a theory, that's fact - he was there right, so he ought to know if the CIA and the Army are lieing or not.

And if you'd actually read the posts, you'd know that the only 'fricken' point I've tried to make throughout this whole series is this ... we all want the troops to return safely, and today especially, when you say your prayers for the 150,000 soldiers say a prayer for the twenty four million innocent Iraqis who are also in harms way.