Originally posted by Mysti-ken:
Originally posted by svt4stv:
you asked how can Sandman PROVE the CIA is lying. how can a regular person "prove" this? how can anyone "prove" this when the CIA is considered THE "authority" on these figures.



I understand and I agree. The question is: how many Iraqis are insurgents with fingers on triggers? The only number's I've seen are the CIA or CPA ones (5-50k) and Sandman's theory - which is that every Iraqi male over the age of 17 has an AK47; implying that they are combatants. Well, I did the math and asked the question - could there be as many as 4 million Iraqi males shooting at coalition forces?

It doesn't seem plausible to me, but let's accept it for the sake of argument. If there are that many (or even 10%!), doesn't that point to an official deception of incredible magnitude? If someone at the pentagon come out and said that the insurgency is much bigger than we thought - we are now facing millions of hostiles - how long would it take for the American public to force a withdrawal? If I were an American, I think I'd like to know the true answer to that question.



you sir are a fricking dolt, when i tell you that something like 75% of homes in the midwest are armed am i insinuating that 75% of the midwest population are involved in militant goverment subversion? no, i'm saying 75% of homes have a boomstick.

When sandman says every male over 17 he's telling you every male over 17 (for the sake of argument) has a gun. Not every male over 17 is an insurgent.

and if your conspiracy theory was somehow correct you wouldnt force a withdrawl, you'd force a full force military campaign vs. a counter-insurgency.

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