Originally posted by Sandman333:
Ever heard of Vietnam? They came up with similar statistics then. And they were just as phony


So you claim the CIA is lieing about the number of Iraqi insurgents and as proof you offer an unsubstantiated charge that they "also" lied about something to do with Viet Nam.

Now, I'm not saying the CIA doesn't lie, but you haven't come close to proving it. And if they are lieing, can you say for a certainty that they are deflating the numbers; maybe they're inflating them.

Originally posted by Sandman333:
I've been on the ground, and I've seen what is going on over there. You can expect that everyone you meet owns an AK, and likely more than one.


I respect that you've been there and witnessed things first hand; and I can easily accept that every Iraqi you came into contact with, or heard about, was carrying.

But with respect, that's still a far cry from being in a position to backup your claim that the CIA's estimates are "laughable" - especially if no one else seems to be disputing them.