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Guys...I didn't really feel like searching about this general of a topic.
I was just curious what is the key to adding torque to our cars. Not really low end torque but throughout the curve.
I think Chris (From CTA) has a pretty good concept of this. I have seen his dyno's reach upwards of 160ft/lbs.
Thanks for your time
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Chris's cars have gained quite a bit of mid-range torque from chips. Other than that... I hear that having 3 liters helps too. 
2000 Mercury Cougar V6 ATX. 16.0@87MPH, 155.0 FWHP
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Different engine with pushrods... :rolleyes:
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long tube headers. for the love of god. get a set of long tube headers and have them dyno tuned (chip). you will be pushing more tq then any n/a 2.5 on the board with just those 2 mods alone...
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Who offeres long tube headers... MSDS or SHM??
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Originally posted by jcboeckl:
Who offeres long tube headers... MSDS or SHM?? SHM...for a ridiculous price though!
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Yea...Just found the price $1400
Why so expensive? If its such a good mod why don't we get someone else to make a set of long tube headers. I'm not too knowledgable but what would be involved, are they hard to make. If not anyone want to work on it?
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I would like to see a before & after dyno charts with SHM headers...
While we are at it...
Then compare it to MSDS
Then compare it to the "Mystery Mod"
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no replacentment for displacement 
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Beat me to it ... torque is a byproduct of displacement due to being able to inhale/exhale larger amounts of air (oxygen). Cheapest torque adder would be nitrous because it already contains more oxygen. Same goes for turbo/supercharger ... allows you to cram in more air. So, when it comes to making more torque, you have a few options:
1) Chips - optimize A/F ratio to make better torque, not much, but still more
2) Long Tube Headers - not really sure why they work so well at making torque, but my guess is they allow better cylinder scavaging, which allows for better cylinder filling.
3) Displacement - allows more air and thus more oxygen
4) Supercharger/Turbo(s) - crams in more air and thus more oxygen.
5) Nitrous Oxide - contains more oxygen than air thus allowing for an oxygen rich environment and thus more power.
In case you haven't seen a pattern, it's all about getting more oxygen into the cylinder. Do that and you will get more torque.
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