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Q:
Do you believe that the Constitution should be amended to protect American citizens against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation?

Please read all choices before voting, and select the one that best matches your opinion.


Do you believe the Constitution should be amended to include protection against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation?
No .. absolutely not!
No ... not if it means legalizing gay marriage, or gay civil union.
Yes ... absolutely.
Yes ... but only if gay 'marriage' is renamed to something else.



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Not neccesary.

Please see Ad. 14...

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

It's called the "equal protection clause."

I mean no offense by this, but I imagine that you Canadians don't spend much time in school studying the US Constitution. Hell, we don't here.


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Interesting little tid-bit...

I went to a Michael Moore rally (I don't really care for the guy, but I promised the woman I'd take her) and found one part especially interesting.

He pulled three American college students out of the crowd of 7000 or so people. He asked for three students with high GPAs. All three of them said they had 4.0's and were attending Willamette University - a very respectable liberal arts school in Salem, Ore. Then he asked for a Canadian to come up on stage. The guy wasn't a student, but was visiting family in Oregon. He asked the Canadian to name the president of the US, asked where the capital was and how many states we had. He got all three questions right.

Then he asked the three 4.0 American college students who the prime minister of Canada was, where their capital was located and how many provinces they had. Not a single one of these "brain children" could answer any of those questions. Hell, I got a 2 out of 3, but only because I spend 8 hours a night reading the AP news wire at my job.

Really reflects how naive the average American is when it comes to basic knowledge on any other nation...kind of makes you think...


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Originally posted by DrGonzo:
Not neccesary.

Please see Ad. 14...

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

It's called the "equal protection clause."

I mean no offense by this, but I imagine that you Canadians don't spend much time in school studying the US Constitution. Hell, we don't here.





No offense taken - although we do in fact study the American system of government, it is not so detailed as to delve into the intricacies of the constitution. (and more to the point, it was 42 years ago for me)

Now, having said that, and looking at the statement above which appears to be section one of the 14th amemdment, why were the 15th and 19th amendments deemed necessary, and why wouldn't the same need also apply to sexual orientation?

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I thought one thread was more than enough on this topic?

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Originally posted by 98 SE:
I thought one thread was more than enough on this topic?




Agreed. You will convince nobody of anything in this thread. If I was a mod i'd consider it flame bait. Oh well, have fun with this (again)...

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Originally posted by 98 SE:
I thought one thread was more than enough on this topic?




You're probably right ... it just seemed that after 450+ posts it was nearly impossible to figure out where people stood on what is IMO the fundamental question - at least without having to wade through the verbiage.

I know statistically it's too small a sample size, but are you at all surprised by the results so far?

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Yeah, lets keep the debate in the other post, and keep this one just a poll.


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Originally posted by Fat Mike:
Interesting little tid-bit...

I went to a Michael Moore rally (I don't really care for the guy, but I promised the woman I'd take her) and found one part especially interesting.

He pulled three American college students out of the crowd of 7000 or so people. He asked for three students with high GPAs. All three of them said they had 4.0's and were attending Willamette University - a very respectable liberal arts school in Salem, Ore. Then he asked for a Canadian to come up on stage. The guy wasn't a student, but was visiting family in Oregon. He asked the Canadian to name the president of the US, asked where the capital was and how many states we had. He got all three questions right.

Then he asked the three 4.0 American college students who the prime minister of Canada was, where their capital was located and how many provinces they had. Not a single one of these "brain children" could answer any of those questions. Hell, I got a 2 out of 3, but only because I spend 8 hours a night reading the AP news wire at my job.

Really reflects how naive the average American is when it comes to basic knowledge on any other nation...kind of makes you think...




Well that's understandable.. nobody cares about canadia.


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i think it would be more interesting to see what people think as well as see where they are from in the country and the general education level of the state they are from, i think alot could be learned from that


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