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#1096490 11/04/04 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Yes I am talking about what the articles are talking about. I'm not quoting them but neither are you. Untalked about advantage? I know I've talked about it before and have heard it many times before. And no I won't deny it exists in some aspects, but so does a black advantage exists in other aspects.

You can say you're not close minded, your posts have proved otherwise. That's good, daddy. I also believe many of us are not on the same playing field, but right now, no race is above the other in every aspect. Blacks are give priveledges whites aren't, whites have some priveledges that blacks don't. Only difference is that the priveledges blacks have over whites can be openly discussed with little criticism, while white priveledges do get criticized. Again, all these priveledges need to be done away with, no more white and black.

And if you want a truly good read, not just the same old crap, here's one for you. Keep in mind, that I don't agree with every point of the article. Simply, it's a good read, discuss. I would like to avoid the personal attacks that you have started on me.

http://www.issues-views.com/index.php?print=1&article=2098




Why do you think AA was put into law? To even the playing for minorities. Do you HONESTLY believe things are level? Do you honestly believe a black man has any adavantage over a white man? Yeah, maybe at playing basketball but that is only part of the problem. I for one clearly know all about "ill's" of my community. I don't need a article telling me about what I see every damn day.

Now that we have gotten that out of the way. That still does not address the fact that there is still an advantage whites have in this country. So, what is your point?

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Only difference is that the priveledges blacks have over whites can be openly discussed with little criticism, while white priveledges do get criticized.




Is that so? I truly believe it is the other way around, my friend. Your "posts" cleary show that. Your on the borderline of calling me a racist.

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I won't say your racist, but I do believe your slightly blind to the world.

Ok, BET, black scholarships, hate crimes. That's what I can think of off the top of my head that is unfair to whites.

AGAIN, I am not denying the fact that whites have some advantages over blacks, but blacks have some over whites. ALL advantages for BOTH sides need to be done away with.

Here is one in reference to the hate crimes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3aa97ff07975.htm

It's quite interesting when you jumped on me for initially not reading the links you posted, but then you won't fully read what I posted. Like I said, close mindedness. That is not just an observation of what is going on but an analysis, and it's a different point of view than your's, which I guess is why you don't want to even read it, much less consider it's validity.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I won't say your racist, but I do believe your slightly blind to the world.

Ok, BET, black scholarships, hate crimes. That's what I can think of off the top of my head that is unfair to whites.

AGAIN, I am not denying the fact that whites have some advantages over blacks, but blacks have some over whites. ALL advantages for BOTH sides need to be done away with.

Here is one in reference to the hate crimes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3aa97ff07975.htm

It's quite interesting when you jumped on me for initially not reading the links you posted, but then you won't fully read what I posted. Like I said, close mindedness. That is not just an observation of what is going on but an analysis, and it's a different point of view than your's, which I guess is why you don't want to even read it, much less consider it's validity.




Actually, I did read the article and to be honest I am in agreement with alot of what was written. Do some research on why we have BET and black scholarships. You would then see the holes in your argument.

Yet, you call me blind to the world.


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RESEARCH? How bout you explain it to me. I'd rather not read research that is going to most likely be blatantly biased. I personally don't mind BET or black scholarships EXCEPT if I try to have WET or white scholarships, it's off with my head by the black community. So you're saying these things are fair to white people? I'm having a big problem paying for my education, oo but I'm white it should be super easy. NOPE. You're showing your close mindedness. Having a discussion with you is pointless. I learned a little bit from our discussion, but you won't even consider what I post.

It's gonna keep going on till one day white people will be blatantly discriminated against. Blacks and other races will continue their song and dance with their "research" to why this is way it should be.

It SHOULDN'T be this way. Stuff should be fair for everyone. End up discrimination and unfair priveledges on BOTH sides.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
RESEARCH? How bout you explain it to me. I'd rather not read research that is going to most likely be blatantly biased. I personally don't mind BET or black scholarships EXCEPT if I try to have WET or white scholarships, it's off with my head by the black community. So you're saying these things are fair to white people? I'm having a big problem paying for my education, oo but I'm white it should be super easy. NOPE. You're showing your close mindedness. Having a discussion with you is pointless. I learned a little bit from our discussion, but you won't even consider what I post.

It's gonna keep going on till one day white people will be blatantly discriminated against. Blacks and other races will continue their song and dance with their "research" to why this is way it should be.

It SHOULDN'T be this way. Stuff should be fair for everyone. End up discrimination and unfair priveledges on BOTH sides.




BET was created because at that time beacuse MTV and the other music channels refused to play Black videos. It was a channel that allowed programs discussing black issues that were wildly missed by the mainstream channels. I mean just look at BET news. Totally different then the most left wing CNN. The reason why black scholarships were created was due to the fact that blacks at the time did not have the money to get into college. The ones that did have the money were denied due to the color of thier skin. That is why you have AA. Need I go on?

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AT THE TIME. Times change. I believe AA WAS needed. Time to get things even and fair.


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I would rather agree with Antonio - the racism does exist and even flourish; however it's the black racism we are talking about with never ending whining and blaming white ppl for every plague and problem affecting/aflicting black community. That's why Bill Cosby is the public enemy # 1 of the black community these days - Mr. Cosby never hesitated to point out the factors that cause problems amidts African-Americans.

Chinese people worked as slaves building the trans-coninental railroads, but their hard work paved the way for their ultimate success.

Irishmen - the sandhogs - worked their asses off digging canals and tunnels in NY and NJ; hard work put them above prejudices against "mikes."

Jewish people were not allowed to expand beyond limited small merchant ranks even "as far" as in the early 1950's. Look at 'em now.

Italians were despised for their alleged peasantry and were ridiculed and denied employment, look at 'em now.

But the black community prefers to indulge in the convenient myths about white ppl putting crack pipe in their mouths, they - especially the younger generation who never really experienced racism on their own skin - prefer to identify themselves with the "cool" gangsta life style and complain about inequality. C'mon now, stop BSing yourself and everybody else.

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Originally posted by R_G:

But the black community prefers to indulge in the convenient myths about white ppl putting crack pipe in their mouths, they - especially the younger generation who never really experienced racism on their own skin - prefer to identify themselves with the "cool" gangsta life style and complain about inequality. C'mon now, stop BSing yourself and everybody else.



Exactly. Like I said, this is true, and it also true that whites still have some advantages blacks don't. Get rid of all the advantages on both sides, world will be much better.


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Originally posted by R_G:
I would rather agree with Antonio - the racism does exist and even flourish; however it's the black racism we are talking about with never ending whining and blaming white ppl for every plague and problem affecting/aflicting black community. That's why Bill Cosby is the public enemy # 1 of the black community these days - Mr. Cosby never hesitated to point out the factors that cause problems amidts African-Americans.

Chinese people worked as slaves building the trans-coninental railroads, but their hard work paved the way for their ultimate success.

Irishmen - the sandhogs - worked their asses off digging canals and tunnels in NY and NJ; hard work put them above prejudices against "mikes."

Jewish people were not allowed to expand beyond limited small merchant ranks even "as far" as in the early 1950's. Look at 'em now.

Italians were despised for their alleged peasantry and were ridiculed and denied employment, look at 'em now.

But the black community prefers to indulge in the convenient myths about white ppl putting crack pipe in their mouths, they - especially the younger generation who never really experienced racism on their own skin - prefer to identify themselves with the "cool" gangsta life style and complain about inequality. C'mon now, stop BSing yourself and everybody else.




R_G excellent post and I agree with that.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by R_G:

But the black community prefers to indulge in the convenient myths about white ppl putting crack pipe in their mouths, they - especially the younger generation who never really experienced racism on their own skin - prefer to identify themselves with the "cool" gangsta life style and complain about inequality. C'mon now, stop BSing yourself and everybody else.



Exactly. Like I said, this is true, and it also true that whites still have some advantages blacks don't. Get rid of all the advantages on both sides, world will be much better.




What? So you are in agreement with what I have been saying all along?


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