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#1091454 10/30/04 09:03 PM
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Yeah you ever see that stuff on your lips after.... I mean.. yeah more tar.


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at this age, your recovery is not a question.

I just want to add one more point: feeling tired/unable to continue in such sports as long-distrance running is more psychological/emotional than physical.
I guess your slump is not only physical... but there's no better way out of it than regular training.
excercise for 30 mins daily and push yourself to the limit once a week. soon, you'll find yourself wanting to do more

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thanks everyone, just what I wanted to hear.

as for the pyschological aspect, I know...mind over matter. trust me, I learned that much in cross country, it's a matter of how bad you want to succeed. with that said, my first run, I couldn't go any further. my lungs burned so bad that I really thought I was going to have an asthma attack (had asthma as a child...seeing as how i ran cross country, I'd say I pretty much outgrew it).

I went again today, been trying ot go every day...it seemed a bit easier. this may be due to a bit warmer weather, but it also may be that i haven't been smoking the past week or so...or a combination of the two. but that's one thing I love about exercise...once you start to see results, that's motivation in itself.

once again, thanks everyone for the positive feedback


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by jerseycat10:
Your body regenerates itself approximately every 7 years. If you stop smoking for 7 years, your lungs will be as good as new.



The smoking may have taken a year or two off your life, but certainly better than if you had kept smoking.




Smoking pot doesn't kill you the way cigarettes do. Smoking pot (a joint or a bowl) is comparable to smoking about 5 cigarettes (as far as the amount of tar in your lungs). No additives, etc. It hasn't been shown to cause lung cancer, or any kind of cancer for that matter, just a case of bronchitis. Furthermore, studies show that the effects of long term pot use on the brain have minimal effects (if at all) compared to the brains of non-smokers.

I believe there was also a study done with cigarettes that showed if regular smokers quit before the age of 30, something like 98% of the effects from the cigarettes would be gone. I doubt you have caused any permanant damage, but then again, I don't know how long you've been smoking and the frequency at which you smoke...

Take this from a big p-smoker...if you need help quitting or just wanna talk about it, PM me. I've always made it a point to keep myself in shape by lifting, etc., but I'm considering cutting back for the sake of my lungs...


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Originally posted by Nate S:
Furthermore, studies show that the effects of long term pot use on the brain have minimal effects (if at all) compared to the brains of non-smokers.




I've smoked, and I've met plenty of people who are "permabaked." It aint cool. I think one would be hard-pressed to say that long term effects on the brain are minimal. I wonder if any of these studies are really valid, since it's not really legal to posess the substance, now is it?

Keep up the good work, Drew.


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Highlights from Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts*.

MYTH: MARIJUANA IS MORE DAMAGING TO THE LUNGS THAN TOBACCO. Marijuana smokers are at a high risk of developing lung cancer, bronchitis, and emphysema.

FACT: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana. However, because researchers have found precancerous changes in cells taken from the lungs of heavy marijuana smokers, the possibility of lung cancer from marijuana cannot be ruled out. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.





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Assuming you aren't referring to crack, don't be too hard on yourself for smoking pot. Trust me, it's one of the most harmless drugs out there - even more harmless than alcohol. I smoked anywhere from 1/8 ounce to 1/4 ounce a day for a couple years before I quit, and on top of all the other stuff I've done, I haven't noticed any physical or mental damage other than the fact that I have lucid dreams now when I sleep. Pots biggest danger is the fact that it makes being bored fun. And when you're having fun while being bored you don't learn or accomplish anything, and it's easy to sit around all day and get out of shape. Assuming you didn't smoke nearly as much as I did, your lungs are fine and you shouldn't lose any sleep over it. You just got out of shape from sitting around too much and giving into the munchies. Just start working out again. Start out slow and over time you'll be back to normal. If you have any questions about different drugs, effects, addiction, etc., just ask me. I'm quite the expert on it.


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Originally posted by Nate S:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by jerseycat10:
Your body regenerates itself approximately every 7 years. If you stop smoking for 7 years, your lungs will be as good as new.



The smoking may have taken a year or two off your life, but certainly better than if you had kept smoking.




Smoking pot doesn't kill you the way cigarettes do. Smoking pot (a joint or a bowl) is comparable to smoking about 5 cigarettes (as far as the amount of tar in your lungs). No additives, etc. It hasn't been shown to cause lung cancer, or any kind of cancer for that matter, just a case of bronchitis. Furthermore, studies show that the effects of long term pot use on the brain have minimal effects (if at all) compared to the brains of non-smokers.




This study was probably done by marijuana advocates. Of course it's less dangerous than cigarettes (because cig smokers smoke more). But that's complete BS about it hasn't been shown to cause cancer. ANY smoke you inhale is going to be bad for you and eventually lead to cancer. And you're lying to yourself (or you're just already so baked you truly believe it) if you think cig smokers brains are worse off than weed smoker's brains.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by Nate S:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by jerseycat10:
Your body regenerates itself approximately every 7 years. If you stop smoking for 7 years, your lungs will be as good as new.



The smoking may have taken a year or two off your life, but certainly better than if you had kept smoking.




Smoking pot doesn't kill you the way cigarettes do. Smoking pot (a joint or a bowl) is comparable to smoking about 5 cigarettes (as far as the amount of tar in your lungs). No additives, etc. It hasn't been shown to cause lung cancer, or any kind of cancer for that matter, just a case of bronchitis. Furthermore, studies show that the effects of long term pot use on the brain have minimal effects (if at all) compared to the brains of non-smokers.




This study was probably done by marijuana advocates. Of course it's less dangerous than cigarettes (because cig smokers smoke more). But that's complete BS about it hasn't been shown to cause cancer. ANY smoke you inhale is going to be bad for you and eventually lead to cancer. And you're lying to yourself (or you're just already so baked you truly believe it) if you think cig smokers brains are worse off than weed smoker's brains.




Have you ever even smoked pot? Pot will do damage to your body, but anti-marijuana groups highly exagerate the harm as a scare tactic. You see, these people have never smoked pot, don't realize how overall harmless of a drug it is and want to dump their beliefs on everyone else. As far as saying "it will take a year or two off your life"...don't listen to that. 1) You don't know how long your life will be anyways. 2) Any number of factors could lead to your death - it's all luck of the draw. 3) Who the hell wants to be 90 anyways?


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Whether I have smoked or not has no relevance to the conversation (though yes I have). I know that with moderate use it's fine. And I'd rather someone drive high than drunk. BUT it does cause brain damage (not cell damage, as we discussed before, but brain damage) and I have met some completely baked people that will never be the same they once were because of pot (which is why I stopped smoking it). It, as I said, like ANY smoke, will cause cancer if inhaled enough. It does also stupidify you over prolonged use. It does mess up your brain, now I'm sure with some people it messes up the part of the brain they're not even using and they're fine, others it messes up the part they are using (not sure which part it did with you).

And I said it MAY have taken a year or two of your life. I said that because again, ANY smoke is harmful, and your lungs will never be 100% the same again.


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