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Can you even do that? Most of the braking is coming from your front brakes. How would you even get wheelspin with the brakes engaged? Or are you talking about the e-brake? I don't know what to tell you about launching an ATX.


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After he releases the brake, it'll spin a little as it launches.


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Well, I know this is stupid, but I was thinking if I held the brake and the gas just long enough for me to step on the gas without the wheels spinning and when I let go of the brake the front wheels spin and I go and might get a better start. Kinda like powerbraking but not really cause there is no wheelspin until I let off the brake, which I don't even have on for a half second. It's bad on the car I know but I have seen so many people do it 20+ times without breaking anything. otherwise, I get better launches when its wet out cause the wheels spin when I boot it down.


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Haha, wheel spin does not equal better launches. It just so happens to be that with street cars, wheel spin is just a fact of life for fast launching, though you want to keep it to a minimum. You are also imagining things if you think it's launching faster just because it's wet.


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Originally posted by CLASSVT:
Originally posted by Big Jim:

accel up to about 35 in 1st and shift directly into 5th.







Not trying to be disrespectful here Big Jim, but why in the hell would you do that? First of all driving 35 mph in 5th gear is just rediculous. And if it's that big of a pain to shift your gears more than once, why would you get a MTX? There isn't anything wrong with skipping a gear every once in a while, but from 1st to 5th? I couldn't disagree more. That would involve either flooring it in 1st to get to 35mph, which would indicate that you're in a hurry and in which case why would you then shift into 5th? Or the other option is to accelerate nice and leisurely to 35mph in first gear, in which case there are going to be people a block away with thier hands over thier ears screaming "shift already!". This is just my opinion Jim, and I hope you don't take too much offense.

If you are racing, shift right before the rev limiter, but don't drop the clutch at all. Ride the clutch a little when launching your car. Dropping the clutch in these cars is like kicking your dog....It just makes you feel bad.





No offense taken.

I didn't mean that this is the way most people (including myself) normally drive. Although I don't do it often, sometime I do accel up to the 35 MPH speed limit then shift to 5th and go on down the road at the speed limit.

What I really ment to show is that you can drive in different extremes and anywhere in between.

Besides, I like the sound of full throttle acceleration. Sometimes you just can't enjoy that sound unless you shut it off at the speed limit.


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First of all driving 35 mph in 5th gear is just rediculous.






I drive in 5th gear when i'm going 35. If your just cruising and don't need to accelerate, just need to maintain speed, it's a good rpm to be at. Runs a little less than 2k at 35, which doesn't torque the engine or cause any problems. So I wouldn't say thats rediculous. I'm trying to pick a fight too lol but it's all fun and games


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I find that holding the brake in and then reving up to 1500 rpms works well for a launch. I really doubt its hard on the car either, just don't rev it real high. I rev it to 1500, release the brake and mash the gas, works well for me but hey, what do I know.


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Originally posted by CLASSVT:
Can you even do that? Most of the braking is coming from your front brakes. How would you even get wheelspin with the brakes engaged? Or are you talking about the e-brake? I don't know what to tell you about launching an ATX.




Yeah, its called a brake stand.

I never skip gears, and shift at 2750-3000rpm. I never go past 3k unless I'm driving hard, racing, blah blah.

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Hmm. Seems like people's shifting preferences are all over the place.

It really depends on your driving style, its not "right" or "wrong" to hold a certain RPM, skip gears, or not skip gears, etc.

Myself I tend to shift between 3500 and 5000 RPM in most traffic situations including merging onto the xpressway. Crusing through town I stay in 4th or 5th depending on speed/traffic, and downshift to 2nd or 3rd for most corners.

More importantly than when you shift is how you shift, which affects wear on your drivetrain components.

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Quote:

More importantly than when you shift is how you shift, which affects wear on your drivetrain components.




To an extent.

I shift between 3250-3500 during normal driving. I noticed someone said they shift at 2000?! That's a little extreme IMO. There's no power at 1000 rpm to pull you. It seems a little taxing on the engine IMO also. Midrange really doesn't feel that great to me so I don't like to go WOT until around 4k or when the secondaries open up. I just like to slowly build up then let it go. I'm addicted to WOT bursts on to the freeway until 3rd also. I'll drop down into 2nd and 40mph, 3rd at 60mph, and well I won't mention anything above the speed limits. A downshift into 1st is still not among my habits. With that gear, you better have rev matching down or else you and your drivetrain are getting some whiplash.


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