Originally posted by JaTo:
Let me put this in as simple and easily understood terms as I possibly can:

IRAQ'S BORDERS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO LOCK DOWN AND SECURE.

Originally posted by Rex Barnes:
Really? Saddam managed to do it. He had the place so secured that we couldn't even get an CIA agent in there to see what was going on.


This is utterly and patently false. We had agents working with the INC, the Iraqi Kurds in the North and I believe we even had folks in the South from '92 onwards.




Are you actually trying to deny that Saddam had control over the territory of Iraq? If so, you are totally alone in that opinion.

By all accounts, Saddam secured the borders of Iraq pretty much in the same way (and with the same level of security, or better) as most countries. Please provide evidence to the contrary, or just go ahead and admit you were incorrect when you said "IRAQ'S BORDERS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO LOCK DOWN AND SECURE."

And while you're at it, just go ahead and admit the point that naturally follows: Bush could have secured Iraq, and he failed to do so.

And don't respond that "PERFECT SECURITY IN IRAQ IS IMPOSSIBLE." That is beside the point, a.k.a. dodging the issue again. You know I am talking about REASONABLE security (the kind that allows government to work in virtually all sectors and regions, and prevents daily bombings and kidnappings, and encourages foreign investment (which is now almost entirely absent).






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