Originally posted by sigma:
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Dell doesn't usually list their hard drive speeds even. Not even when you get the computer saying the system specs.



Thespeeds are given right on the list of choices you can make. They always have been. Brand name is not, as it just depends on which supplier got the truck to the dock first.

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now days most mother boards are comign with 16x pci slots



What is your quanitifcation of "most"?

There wasn't even such a thing offered until June. Even now, there's only a couple of motherboards that support it and there's nothing out there that can really benefit from it yet. With the nForce4 it'll be more popular, but it's still got a long ways to go before "most" motherboards have it.

So, yes, it will be a while before Dell starts mass-producing computers on incredibly expensive motherboards that have 16X PCI-E slots on them since consumers have absolutely no need for them currently nor for the near future.

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Anyone with dell on their resume can get a good job. i mean come on. Their a huge company employee thousands of people world wide in several countries. Just because you know a little doesn't know a lot. I can't agrue more about india as i don't have my friend at my side. I will ask him further details. Dell isn't what their cracked up to be. My company i work for is huge, but i know things aren't perfect, but I still defend them as a good company just like most employees do. so you defending them is natural, current or ex employee. and thats fine. but neither of us are really making any new points outside the stuff where they make the computers.



Apparently you're confused again. I never worked for Dell. I did consulting work for them while working for a logistics firm. Big difference. I "defend" them because your claims are factually incorrect and you're attempting to lie to people either on purpose or out of ignorance of the truth, one of the two. I have no interest in the company and have never personally owned one of their computers, as I have always built my own.



Originally posted by sigma:
I did considerable work engineering Dell logistics system when I worked for i2.



sorry speed reading doesn't always get you the facts. okay, so I2. My point is Dell offers old technology, they don't create inivative designs, or fuel new technology, they sell old stuff to unsuspecting buyers who say ohh $500 for a computer wow thats cheap. Yea, cheap! exactly as they thought, but not just the price, the computer and all. As for hard drive speeds, their site is much different then the systems you buy in stores, or in adds at best buy or circuit city. they dont list them and thats what i was going off. most of those systems still contain 5400 rpm drives.

Abit, "most" of their boards they sell are pci-e now, same with a lot of other companies like msi, and asus, are dropping older boards to make room for newer boards. yea agp will be around for a while. As buying a new mobo, new processor, and new graphics card is a little expensive for upgrades but new systems that include those aren't to expensive. It will take dell over 2 years to start using them on most of their systems. along their cheaper computers.

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