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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Rara-

So you don't think something like a custom advance curve and A/F tuning on a modded car will alter the optimum IMRC opening point then?

Neither will significantly alter the flow volume and flow characteristics, so no, I don't think either will make changing the IMRC opening a worthwile mod.

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What about the many different lower intake diameters used? Still no change?

What many different intake diameters? A change large enough to do more than slightly change the intake flow characteristics might make it worth while, but a change like that would likely only be made w/ other significant changes that warrant the larger runners (ie larger valves, ports, etc.) and hence the need to revisit the IMRC controls.

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Fair enough... (still going to test it of course wink )

Ok. I'm all for additional testing. Just make sure your tests are not compromised by uncomparable methods etc. as so many of the "rags" tend to do on their comparison tests.

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What are your thoughts on total removal of the secondaries then? Only 3L or Forced Induction or not at all?


On a street driven car, I would say do not remove them (with a few exceptions) A street 2.5L SVT w/ heavy breathing mods (full, well designed exhaust, oversized TB, intake tract, etc.) can get away w/ it, though the results will be less than optimal (gr8ride's car is a great example of this, his car has some top end gains associated w/ these mods, though I really think he has lost some of his tq in the low and mid ranges. I will admit though,, his car w/ removed secondaries runs better than I expected.)
Similar thoughts apply to a 3L setup, unless it is heavily modified, and maximum peak hp is desired, rather than maximum area under the curve.
Forced induction, I think (though I have not tested this) could benefit from removed secondaries, (turbocharged engines prolly more so than S/C) more than other applications.


It's all about balance.

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