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One misperception (at least I think its one) that I would like to correct: Originally posted by Mysti-ken: Thanks for your candor - not everyone who beleives as you do would be so open. However, you are obviously in a position to make this philosophy work for you. I sincerely hope that in a time where fewer and fewer Americans have the same access to healthcare that you do, at some point you donâ??t find yourself unavoidably in the other camp.
By this I DO NOT advocate the apparently assumed position of "tough luck" for underprivelidged or lower-income people. I think that with a fair amount of reform, private healthcare can once again become affordable and fairly open enough to provide what is necessary. It once was for a greater number of people than today; with effort it can become so again.
Furthermore, I was of this belief at a time when I myself had no coverage and paid full price for the sinus medication I have to choke down ever so often. It was an excellent incentive to find a better job, to say the least...
Originally posted by Mysti-ken: This is a great quote; Iâ??d forgotten about it. I am quite certain, however, that the context was a discussion about the then current regime in the Soviet Union which you may recall was brutally repressive â??? that was the socialism Churchill spoke of, and IMO doesn't apply to our debate.
I would like to think that Churchill knew the differences between socialism and communism and to which particular brand of ideology he was speaking to, but I digress.
To further solidify what is boiled down in that quote, I offer one more; one that does refer to communism, but still maintains the foundation of thought in what I believe to be ultimately at stake in socializing so many aspects of our lives:
Capitalism and Communism stand at opposite poles. Their essential difference is this: The communist seeing the rich man and his fine home, says: "No man should have so much." The capitalist, seeing the same thing, says: "All men should have as much."
-Phelps Adams
Originally posted by Mysti-ken: And with tongue planted firmly in cheek, I offer you these Churchill gems:
â??The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.â? â??Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened.â?
And perhaps the most appropriate to this post: â??It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations.â?
Cheers.
I would fully concur with all of these!
JaTo
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Missouri City, TX
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