Originally posted by Sandman333:
I don't have to agree with all of his beliefs. However, the 2nd Amendment, concerning arms, was the topic at the time, and as a part of our Constitution I felt it relevant. The suggestion was that TJ was a Liberal and therefore would not have approved the individual right to keep and bear arms. I demonstrated that to be false.



Actually I brought TJ into the discussion in response to your statement that liberals want to keep church and state separate. However your pointing out his views concerning guns made me reconsider placing modern "liberal," "conservative" labels on people of that time period. Politics were very different then.


Dueling Duratecs '95 SE V6 MTX 0 Mods '04 Mazda6 S Wagon '03 Kawasaki Z1000 But thus do I counsel you, my friends: distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful! Friedrich Nietzsche