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Originally posted by bret:
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD A CELCIA GTS WEIGHS 2500 POUNDS! drop 700 pounds off the tour and you better be running sub 2.0 60' times.


For the love of god, a Celica weighs 2500lbs, without the driver, plus another 200lbs for the driver, so your difference is 500lbs. GT-S has 'measley' 130lbs of torque mind you....

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WE NEED MORE TORQUE!


Yes, but we need more TRACTION.

In theory, low-end torque certainly won't hurt, but you need mid-range and top-end power.

Judging by your first couple of posts, you said that all we need is low-end torque to get 13s, that's what I was trying to argue. IMO, we need traction more than anything else.

If low-end torque is such an important part of getting low ETs, how is a S2000 running 14.0-14.1 with barely any torque? How is a Civic Si running 15.0-15.2 (slighly modded) with almost no torque? (sorry Infuryum. wink )

Again, I want to reeiterate that low-end torque certainly won't hurt, but getting traction is more important when it comes to our cars.

Look at SVT2000, running a 14.7 with a 2.1 60'. Just shows you how much of a difference traction can make.

And lets not forget Brad Noon's run of 13.9 with a 75shot... 2.1 60' with torque straps. Think he hit the switch right off the line to get more of that low-end torque? Fugg no.

John


'98 SVT - modded
-15.01@91.8
'95 Suzuki GS500E
-faster than the above
---wanting a Speed Triple or Superhawk badly