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Originally posted by T-RedSVT: As a CCW licensee, this poses an interesting question. Would you indeed have been justifed unloading on that guy in the first video???
Discuss.....
you have to have no other option out.... and i honestly think, had that actually been a real situation, the driver could have hopped a curb and gotten away. hell... they even stopped at the light afterwards instead of taking off in a panic.
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam: you have to have no other option out.... and i honestly think, had that actually been a real situation, the driver could have hopped a curb and gotten away. hell... they even stopped at the light afterwards instead of taking off in a panic.
I would probably agree with you and say that the driver should have done a little more to get away from this guy, though its very easy to say this looking down at the situation.
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport: I would probably agree with you and say that the driver should have done a little more to get away from this guy, though its very easy to say this looking down at the situation.
it's not a matter of should coulda woulda... it's a matter of the law. if you shoot someone, and you had other options out (especially with lots of witnesses), you're going to jail. simple as that. hell, you shoot someone even when you don't have an option, you may go to jail. it's not a pleasant experience, but it beats the alternative.
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link appears to be down, so I can't comment on the justification.
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makes me want to hack his website down. thats just messed up/.
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appears to be done. page not found error on the original link.
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam: Originally posted by 99blacksesport: I would probably agree with you and say that the driver should have done a little more to get away from this guy, though its very easy to say this looking down at the situation.
it's not a matter of should coulda woulda... it's a matter of the law. if you shoot someone, and you had other options out (especially with lots of witnesses), you're going to jail. simple as that. hell, you shoot someone even when you don't have an option, you may go to jail. it's not a pleasant experience, but it beats the alternative.
actually, we just talked about this in class the other day. battery and self defense. you may only use reasonable force to defend yourself, or another. lethal force is only justified in a life and death situation. based strictly on the footage i would say that he was just bashing the car. shooting him, for what we saw in the video, would be excessive force and the shooter could be looking at some trouble. had he pulled the lady out of the car, then it could be reasonably viewed as reasonable force. of course, that would all be up to the jury who may possibly feel he was doing the right thing. along with the prosecutor who may also feel this way and not decide to press any charges. just my 2 cents.
and yes, he is correct, if you have an option out, it is highly advisable to take it.
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Look for holdinitdown Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't staged. He could have planted the crowbar, and waited till he saw his arch anenome PT Cruiser. You now how they're taking over the streets nowawadays.
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam: Originally posted by ResidentAdvisor: Originally posted by MxRacerCam: that was staged and stupid. stupid x 1,000,000.
I dont think it was staged.
right. thats why he kept looking for the blue pt cruiser. and there happened to be a crowbar right by the side of the road.
I wount deny the fact that it could of been staged, but to me it would make more sense to pay a guy like that 20 dollars to smash up a car on camera and then dissapear than it would to create possibly thousands of dollars in repair on a perfectly good PT just to make that minute long clip.
And the second clip didnt look very staged at all.
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