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CEG\'er
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How do you reconsile these FACTS. Forget what your liberal brainwashing PROFs are telling you and think it through!
Excuse me, I went to one of the most conservative universities in the nation and I've been out of school 10 years. I've learned to think for myself, thank you very much.
The fact remains, no weapons of mass destruction were ever found in Iraq. Again, how and when should we have dealt with Iraq?? For me, that question was a question of the future, not an imminent threat. You know, you couldn't maintain sanctions against Iraq forever. What happend after WWI when all those sanctions were levied against Germany? It ruined their economy and gave rise to the Third Reich. What happened next?? You can't strangle hold a country forever.
Don't be fooled either. There were disenting opinions about Saddam's real status with WMD's. A prominent former weapons inspector, Mr. Ritter, was very vocal before the Iraq war started that Iraq destroyed most of its weapons after the first Gulf War. And did anybody really buy into the aluminum tubes theory?? Come one. It was controversial from the start. And people forget, Iraq was allowed to build arms within limits. They were allowed a defense. They were a sovereign nation. Granted Iraq was required to live up to the terms of their cease fire but you can't police forever. Again, look back at what happened to Germany.
The US was getting a bad name in the Middle East even before we invaded Iraq. Why were Saudis flying planes into the twin towers? They didn't do it for nothing. We had a flawed foreign policy. The blame stems way back to the Clinton administration. The Clinton administration failed us too.
And so then we get lucky and establish democracy in Iraq. There is no guarrantee that we will have a liberal democracy. With the rise of Islamic fundamentalism, chances are the democracies that will be formed will be illiberal---Look at Turkey---The only Islamic democracy in existence. Sure, majority rules but minority rights are stamped out. I'm sure it's great to be a woman over there in Turkey.
I am all for non proliferation but I guess I'm cynical that in the end all countries will eventually proliferate. Countries feel safer with nukes. Maybe the world would be safer if everybody had them? Then we wouldn't have to worry about everybody ever going to war because mass destruction would be guarranteed for all. Now I don't really believe this but you can see that all countries have a security dilemna. All countries feel insecure when their neighbors have nukes and they don't. Why don't we worry about India & Pakistan who both have nukes?? That's because they both keep each other in check. The real threat with nuclear weapons is them finding their way into the hands of an irrational actor such as a terrorist. We may have not liked Saddam or Iraq, but he was not an irrational actor. Iraq was no immediate threat---Al quida was/is.
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