The collective boner of the leftists in this thread is amazing. The immediate effect of the debates is certain: Kerry appears more favorable, etc. But the long-lasting effects will only hurt Kerry. You can't "say anything" to gain style points, which Kerry did, and not expect the other side to call him on it. You'll see some excellent ads in the next few days from the RNC that will make Kerry and his followers wish the debate didn't happen.

Everyone pitching a "pants tent" really has no idea how elections work. Until you see Wisconsin, Iowa, and other blue states going back into the Kerry column, you should hold your wads. Then you have to think about taking Florida or Ohio.