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If anyone really needs that deep an explanation as to why CI was removed...well they should just read this thread.

It's amazing some people don't learn, even after the fact.


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I'm guessing those that caused the trouble in there don't even donate to help keep the site running. They should be very grateful for ever having a CI forum. (Hoping it wasn't me that got it locked down)


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Originally posted by perry:
This should prove to HITMAN that we aren't too busy to watch after the forums.


The very fact that HITMAN is not banned suggests the opposite

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The title of the forum is COMMON INTERESTS. There wouldn't be any arguing (childish or not) if somebody wasn't commonly interested in the topic being argued. If you dont like whats going on in a particular thread then dont participate in it. Plane and simple.

I think some mod's or admin's get aggravated at something else and then when they see something they dont like here they have a hissyfit and take it out on the whole forum. If you have a "Common Interests" forum you must expect things to get heated and/or childish sometimes. Its human nature. In my own opinion, alot of the forum rules do/should not apply in the CI forum because it is impossible to inforce them.

Removing the forum will not do any good because discussions and arguments will trickle into other places thus disturbing other forums ways of life. This is what the CI forum is for. Its so we can duke out an argument somewhere else and not disturb others that want to talk about cars.

Like I said above, in my owne oppinion this applys to moderators and admins also. If you dont like where an argument is going than you should not go back in the thread. Its that simple.

Pretty soon this place is going to start loosing members and it wont be a part of daily life for alot of people anymore. I admire Lance for having such a successfull forum that thousands of people visit everyday but I dissagree with alot of decisions he has made in the past. I agree with him wanting to set an example but he can do that in his own posts. Dont sensor others for letting a little of their own personality leak out into a thread here and there.

There is this kind of forum eddicate that everyone tries to live up to so they can sound smart and so no one will make fun of them. What I have found with this place is that if you do not live up to this eddicate then people will most likely flame, or poke fun at you just for being yourself. This is one thing I cannot stand. Im guilty of it too. I have participated in a couple heated debates where I use big words and try to make my self sound smarter than the next guy, when what I really want to do is tell them to [censored] off. If anyone sais that they are not guilty of this than may GOD strike them down with lightning. But there is nothing wrong with this. It is a part of life. You cannot tell someone not to get pissed off, and its wrong for you to think that you can. It mabey just a forum but its better to duke something out in this place than to do it in person.

I made my point a long time ago, so :::::rant off:::::

AND AS DAVO SAIS "THATS JUST MY OPINION, I COULD BE WRONG". or something like that.


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Originally posted by infuryum:
I think it's childish to remove it.

I haven't seen anything in that forum for a week, but I rarely agree with Lance, anyway.




Childish? How exactly is it childish? I'd love an answer.

Bottom line is that no matter what rules are set up, people eventually push the limits and I have to do something about it. I felt it was out of control enough to warrant a few hours of downtime.

How you can pass judgment without even seeing what was going on in there?

Originally posted by infuryum:
I don't need a shpeel about how we exist under the good graces of our ruler. He and I exchanged quips about that in the fall of '02. I still have the PM's saved.

I plainly disagree with the way he operates. It's simple. You agree with him and that's fine. I choose not to.




I still have the PM's, too, and I just re-read them. Do you still think I run this site to fuel my ego? I assure you that it is not my motivation. I did remember things ending amicably at that time, and have the PM to prove it, but you seem to never mention that.

You do not agree with my operational methods, and that's fine, but I would love to hear your suggestions. I can recall a lot of disgruntlement over how things are run, but no suggestions. Feel free to PM me, I am always open to suggestions on improving the site.

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Good decision, Lance.

It's my personal opinion that we should be rid of it permanently.



There's not really any compromise in this situation; either follow the rules and keep CI, or don't follow the rules and lose it, looks like a lot of the people that will miss it are the ones that got rid of it.




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Removed because the contents of this post were part of the very reason CI was suspended for a few hours.

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It's OK if we lose the members that constantly start STUPID arguements that cause the CI forum to be shut down. I and many others won't miss them, including the moderators and Lance, the owner of the site. If people wanna leave they can and should. This site isn't about the CI forum, so if that's all you are here for, then go ahead and leave now. The reasons moderators go into the threads is to MODERATE. These are moderated forums, they need to be moderated, that's just the way it is. Don't like it, don't stay here.

A little bickering and argueing is ok, the CI forum only gets shut down for good reasons. One more time, don't like it then don't stay, the forums are not about the CI forum.


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Originally posted by SAV-ZX2:
If anyone really needs that deep an explanation as to why CI was removed...well they should just read this thread.

It's amazing some people don't learn, even after the fact.




whatever. i'm just trying to help. you're just here to what? make me look bad? start arguments? you are the man.


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Originally posted by Mad_Medeiros:
Originally posted by SAV-ZX2:
If anyone really needs that deep an explanation as to why CI was removed...well they should just read this thread.

It's amazing some people don't learn, even after the fact.




you seem to be a big [censored] talker/ass kisser lately. damn.



Keep personal attacks to PM. Chris just made a simple statement about what is going on. You're just proving the point he made.


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