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Overall, I was disappointed in Bush.

Kerry left openings big enough to drive a truck through.
1) The global test..."sir, what global test are you refering to? We had the UN support in the first gulf war, and you voted against the coalition anyway despite Sadam invading another country!"

2) the 87 billion...."sir, that was your VOTE not some misspoke. You tried to forcibly tie your tax increase adjenda to a vote for needed military equipment and when you failed, you betrayed our troups by voting against the bill for spite".

3) Kerrys 4 point plan..."its the same as MINE!.we are using NATO to train Iraqis, we are getting a larger UN group to montor elections, and at least 3 summits are being arranged"

It goes on. Talk about our sucess with Pakistan killing hundreds of Al Queda, (remember they were supporting Taliban when our coalition was in Afganistan) and breaking up AQ Khans nuclear network..he said this but spell it out, its links to N.Korea, Libya, etc. He did pretty good pointing out the inconsistancies of Kerry's "wrong war wrong time yet still asking troups to die in battle in Iraq, and insulting the contributions of Allawi and are allies.

One big thing the Pres could not say (but surely wanted to) was the new congressional report on oil for food, which apparently points a strong finger at France, Germany, China, and UN senior officials in influencing the vote to go to war. We are still on delicate ground trying to get cooporation now and we cannot DIRECTLY hit them with this, and they knwo it. But Kerry has so tied himself to the UN, an unvieling of the level of corruption and its influence on our security would be devastating for him.

Kerry was a good styalistic debator, but remained devoid of a plan or a backbone. Bush looked annoyed & tired..though later I learned that the day of the debate, while Kerry was getting his nails done, Bush was surveying Hurrican damage for 10 hours. He did us no favors and I am a bit peeved at him for making us worry about Kerry for another month when he could have destroyed him...