Thanks Ryan, since it appears reasonable that I can hit somewhere around the 10 area, I will do a cost analysis between using one over the other. I agree with the idea of going the 3.0 heads a long as I can hold back from basically doing nothing to them outside a normal rebuild (assuming I can find some decent used heads , preferably low milage) On that subject, anyone know if there have been any changes to the '01 + heads with regard to compatibility with the mid' 03 up shortblock? I kind of pieced together through my parts searches that there may be a difference in part numbers for the heads on the two shortblocks (or maybe it was just the vehicle application)?