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I live in georgia and I and my kids had to sign a form stating that we understood the code of conduct and the dress codes at the beginning of school. He and his mother should have had to sign something similar to that effect. If they had a problem about it they should have contested it at the biginning of the year.
people are to sue happy and schools have become to easy on kids. When I was in school I would have expected to get my butt busted for even wearing an earing to school.
If you dont want to follow the rules then dont complain about the consequences..
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All I know is that that crap looks nasty as hell to me! Facial piecings almost always look read and infected or crusty around the actual holes and that sickens me. Earings, belly buttons, tongue rings and tattoos are fine, but something about nose rings, eyebrow rings and piercing you lip just grosses me out. Nonetheless, the point at hand is that the school said no, and he has to live with it. I think coming to school looking like a pin cushion, is daft, and VERY unattractive (except to other pin-cushions). I waited till I got out of school to get my tattoos, I have 3 large ones on my back, but I don't go around flaunting them. I don't see any engineers or sales guys in the Auto Industry with this sort of "self-expression", why? Because it doesn't look professional and frankly I would be distracted myself if I were trying to conduct SERIOUS business with someone looking like this kid. I'd be too busy laughing, or I'd blow him off as a cook. Sure after hours, at the bar or at the damn laundromat, put a damn fish-hook through your eyelid if it makes you wet, but when you're going to school or working in an environment were decency, respect, and seriousness are required - take that crap and and stow it till you get home! Finally, I agree with others here when they blame the mother. WTF was she thinking to let a 10th grader do this to himself? He needs a good back-hander upside his head and the Mom needs a slap back into reality too. This is my opinion so if it pisses you off, oh well. ps. Isn't it funny how the "Hot-Topic" crowd, as I like to call them, all strive to outdo each other with whacked-out clothing, fluoro hair colors, mohawks, peircings etc., but in the end they all look the same? 
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as andy pointed out, some people here are forgetting that this kid does not have a legal right the wear what he wants so long as he is a minor. he must live by the rules that his parents set for him. so his parents are ok with it you say? he must also live by the rules that society sets. in this case the no visible piercing thing. he must learn disipline.
study psychology and you will see that he does infact have issue to deal with. as do we all. the difference here is how we deal.
to the person who compared this kid to dr. martin luther king jr: wth? are you really serious? dr king promoted peaceful demonstrations within the boundaries of the law, not abandoning the law, or rules, whenever it suits you. more importantly, the civil rights movement was to get equal rights and treatment for people who just happen to be a little darker than the white people. not because they made a choice to be black as this kid made a choice to wear the visible piercings.
here is a good opportunity for this kid to do something productive. start a petition by getting the students to sign saying they think the rule should be changed. get the parents involved. have the rules changed be going through the system as opposed to flipping the bird to the system.
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Don't YOU PEOPLE know the 21st Century version of "Beautify America"? In the 1960s, it was just "Get a haircut". Now it's:
"Beautify America! Get a haircut. Remove those piercings. Learn how to wear pants that are the proper size. Lose some weight. Turn that boom box down. Baseball caps are not worn backwards. If you can't sport a full mustache or beard, shave!"
I'm certain there are more rules that can be added. Shall we take this slogan and modify it further for fun?
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Originally posted by t - roy:
79% of the people on this site are too conservative for thier own good or are just too old.
People out of high school lose taste for their high school habits quickly. I knwo this because it's already happening just two years out of graduation.
I say let him have them. If the school is that uptight of their student body's image, have him go to a different school in the area.
Yeah, I don't like those peircings. This kid is 700 miles away; supportively, Who cares? Let the kid have his piercings. Kids in high school should have already learned how to control their distractions.
I voted no.
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Originally posted by mrspindlelegs:
"Beautify America!
1)Get a haircut.
2)Remove those piercings.
3)Learn how to wear pants that are the proper size.
4)Lose some weight.
5)Turn that boom box down.
5)Baseball caps are not worn backwards.
6)If you can't sport a full mustache or beard, shave!"
Shall we take this slogan and modify it further for fun?
Mr. Spindlelegs
1)get a haircut depending on how professional you want/need to be.
2)remove those peircings depending on how professional you want/need to be. it may be required by your job or school. on your own time you can set off as many metal detectors as you please
3)learn how to wear pants that are the proper size depending on how professional you want/need to be. it may be required by your job or school. example: at the family business, where i am in charge, i require my employees wear their pants about their waists and that the crotch not come down to their knees as this is not a presentable image to customers in general.
4)lose some weight so long as your job is dependent upon your physique, unless it does not and you understand and accept the consequences that come with being overweight, then go for it.
5)baseball caps are not to be worn backwards depending on how professional you want/need to be. it may be required by your job or school.
6)if you can't sport a full mustache or beard then shave depending on how professional you want/need to be. it may be required by your job or school. i for one am not in a position here i must shave everyday due to rules, although i should with how quickly i get 5 o clock shadow. i just let my barber take care of that every two weeks with my haircut. i do understand and accept that some people/companies/situations require/prefer/expect one to be clean shaven and i modify my policy accordingly.
there, successfully modified to my liking
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Originally posted by Andy W.:
Originally posted by platinum_drew:
ha. Fort Meade is a public school, I'm not military 
it wasn't this strict til 9/11
Fool, Fort Meade was the school he came from, not the one he went too.
plainly put, [censored] you. I know that, you jerk. I'm a fool? I GREW UP with this kid, I know him personally, I started this thread, I even went to FORT MEADE WITH HIM. read all the posts before you start running your mouth. we were discussing schools on a military base. someone commented that at military schools insubordination is naturally unaccepted, but at public schools...etc. I stated that fort meade was in fact a public school.
you don't agree with me? fine, I don't care. there is no need for personal attacks. that's exactly what that was. there was no reason for that statement, and the only reason you did it is because you disagree with me, and you want to make me look foolish and inferior, so that people will think my points are invalid.
honestly, at this point, I think I've stated my entire arguement in one post or another. I'm really tired of being flamed when all I did was ask for support. you wanna be conservative? FINE. don't be a d!ck about it. I'm done with this thread, all I wanted was a little support, but you all made me out to be some "bad guy" for supporting my friend. like I've done something wrong by expressing my opinion. screw you too.
and to whomever said he doesn't have any rights until he's 18...wtf? he does have rights. I believe the dress code, while it is in place, is unfair. "start a petition, do something about it, be productive." wow, that's what he's doing, he's going to court to try to get this changed.
once again, thank you very much to everyone who supported my friend, to everyone who REMAINED CIVIL (the few), regardless of whether you disagreed with me or not. to everyone else, I have a much different impression of you now 
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Originally posted by acrdklr:
as andy pointed out, some people here are forgetting that this kid does not have a legal right the wear what he wants so long as he is a minor. he must live by the rules that his parents set for him. so his parents are ok with it you say? he must also live by the rules that society sets. in this case the no visible piercing thing. he must learn disipline.
study psychology and you will see that he does infact have issue to deal with. as do we all. the difference here is how we deal.
to the person who compared this kid to dr. martin luther king jr: wth? are you really serious? dr king promoted peaceful demonstrations within the boundaries of the law, not abandoning the law, or rules, whenever it suits you. more importantly, the civil rights movement was to get equal rights and treatment for people who just happen to be a little darker than the white people. not because they made a choice to be black as this kid made a choice to wear the visible piercings.
here is a good opportunity for this kid to do something productive. start a petition by getting the students to sign saying they think the rule should be changed. get the parents involved. have the rules changed be going through the system as opposed to flipping the bird to the system.
i have a masters in education and have taken many psychology classes. i am currently in law school. i have taught in high school to chumps just like this one. i was a chump in high school. IMO, you sir, have no knowlege-based OR experience-based idea of what you are talking about. i would much rather him deal with his own issues by piercing his forehead than coming to school and shooting intolerant people like yourself.
Just because some school might have a paper for parents to sign stating they know the school rules does not mean all schools do, typically very large schools dont. maybe she didnt read it, who cares! i know my mom wouldnt have. she would yeah yeah yeah the usual bs ok i have to go to work, where do i sign? if she wants to let him look like that does it reallly bother you? if it does, you need help, dr. phil kinda help. maybe she doesnt care for it either but is proud of him because he helps make ends meet. maybe he is working and helping his mom so they dont live on the streets. i would say he is alredy a man. most little HS pricks could care less about their parents issues and only care about themselves.
i dont like this piercing phase these kids are going through. i would never let my daughter wear that crap as long as she lived in my house. i think its ugly. i also think baggy pants with boxers sticking out is lame. i thing wearing Aston Kutcher trucker hats is lame. so what? who cares? certainly not them. i laugh when i stand in line at blockbuster and the guy has this crap jingling from his face cuz i know thats why he works at blockbuster. so? he'll figure it out in a few years.
by the rationale of many of the people in heres socialistic thinking we should also:
1. ban modifications from cars because they are distracting, they make noise, and they may result in serious injury/death.
2. ban baggy/tight pants for the same reasons as piercings.
3. ban video games because it is an ovious venting of a child's anger because he has serious issues that he is suppressing and his parents are ignoring. this may lead to him shooting everyone at school.
4. ban rap music because its offensive and most people do not like it. what? you like rap music? then go live somewhere else. something must be wrong with your mother if youre white and you listen to hip hop.
5. you wanna wear a yamika(sp?) in class?! too bad, youre in the bible belt, you dont like, move back to NY! WTH is wrong with your mother letting you walk around with that little thing on your head and thinking that Jesus wasnt the savior!
6. you might be too young to remember (i know i am) when black people were too distracting and offensive and were considered too dangerous by many southern schools.
7. we should do it like old school china with the short haircuts and drab grey suits for everyone. then people can just focus on their work.
there was a great Christmas episode of South Park just like this. Everything the kids did offended someone so in the end they were all wearing blah-looking grey outfits and mumbling with no stage decorations for their Christmas performance.
i went to a private baptist school in 8th grade where girls could not wear pants (looong dresses) and boys had to tuck their button up collered shirts in, and must wear a belt. boys had to have short "neat" hair and no facial hair or earings whatsoever. girls could have earings but only one stud in each ear. this was just 10 years ago, and they still do it. imagine that in a public school. all the kids hated it and tried to find ways to sneak around it. still had fights, smoking, graffiti, etc...
boy, i think some right-wing conservatives in here have some issues to deal with.
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Originally posted by svt4stv:
IMO, you sir, have no knowlege-based OR experience-based idea of what you are talking about.
well, since i have no desire to fan the flames here, i won't argue qualifications with you. you are free to decide whether you agree with my assertation or not.
just so that were are clear though, what is my educational and/or experience based background?
Originally posted by svt4stv:
most little HS pricks could care less about their parents issues and only care about themselves.
agreed.
Originally posted by svt4stv:
i dont like this piercing phase these kids are going through. i would never let my daughter wear that crap as long as she lived in my house. i think its ugly. i also think baggy pants with boxers sticking out is lame. i thing wearing Aston Kutcher trucker hats is lame. so what? who cares? certainly not them. i laugh when i stand in line at blockbuster and the guy has this crap jingling from his face........he'll figure it out in a few years.
agreed
Originally posted by svt4stv:
by the rationale of many of the people in heres socialistic thinking we should also:
1. ban modifications from cars because they are distracting, they make noise, and they may result in serious injury/death.
2. ban baggy/tight pants for the same reasons as piercings.
3. ban video games because it is an ovious venting of a child's anger because he has serious issues that he is suppressing and his parents are ignoring. this may lead to him shooting everyone at school.
4. ban rap music because its offensive and most people do not like it. what? you like rap music? then go live somewhere else. something must be wrong with your mother if youre white and you listen to hip hop.
5. you wanna wear a yamika(sp?) in class?! too bad, youre in the bible belt, you dont like, move back to NY! WTH is wrong with your mother letting you walk around with that little thing on your head and thinking that Jesus wasnt the savior!
6. you might be too young to remember (i know i am) when black people were too distracting and offensive and were considered too dangerous by many southern schools.
7. we should do it like old school china with the short haircuts and drab grey suits for everyone. then people can just focus on their work.
this part is funny. i don't know that i agree with socialist though. maybe fascist would be a better choice of words imo. i as well am too young to have experienced the civil rights movement first hand, but, i am personally familiar with the anti-anybody not white mentality from dealing with some of my southern relatives.
Originally posted by svt4stv:
i went to a private baptist school in 8th grade where girls could not wear pants (looong dresses) and boys had to tuck their button up collered shirts in, and must wear a belt. boys had to have short "neat" hair and no facial hair or earings whatsoever. girls could have earings but only one stud in each ear..........imagine that in a public school.
i too attended one of these schools when i was in elementary school. plus i will see your uniforms and raise you weekly inspections in dress uniform. very militaristic in style. the entire school(grades k-8) assembled and stood at attention until such time as the inspections/prayer/pledge of aliegence(sp?)/announcements were finished. nobody in that school dared try the hooliganism going on today. outside of school you could do whatever you wanted but while in class you complied to the rules or you found somewhere else to get an education. i don't have to imagine the public schools going to uniforms. i went to a public junior high that switched to uniforms to year i started highschool. that school still requires uniforms and other schools have follwed suit.
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Originally posted by svt4stv:
by the rationale of many of the people in heres socialistic thinking we should also:
1. ban modifications from cars because they are distracting, they make noise, and they may result in serious injury/death.
2. ban baggy/tight pants for the same reasons as piercings.
Actually, 1. is partly correct and in place. If your exhaust is too loud or you have any visible external neon on your car while driving, it's a fineable offense.
Baggy pants have been banned in several places because of the potential for hiding drugs or weapons. It only takes one to ruin it for everyone.
Almost every school has its rules on how to dress. It's called the school code. Read your student orientation guide or whatever they're calling it now. You don't want to follow the rules? Create a petition and get it signed to change it. Rules are rules. You follow them.
I'm sorry, but, not allowing facial piercings is fine by me. The idea of high school is to get into college where you can then go on to find yourself a career. Good luck landing ANY serious job when you've got 10 pounds of metal on your face.
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