Originally posted by BP:
lol @ the bush calvary...

you guys give way to much credit to the bush admin in YOUR interpretation of his actions and the facts as we know it. maybe because you just like him? i could care less how good of a person the cic is as long as they lead effectively and make good decisions with excellent foresight. i shouldn't have to expect less or settle for less.



I've said it once and I'll say it again, I'm not too hot on Bush in regard to some of his policies and beliefs (gay marriage, the environment, etc.). This administration's foreign policy is something that I have found attractive, even though it's been handled roughly in some places.

I'd say this administration has DEFINITELY lead effectively, though foresight hasn't been one of it's hallmarks. What can one expect when the intelligence agency that has fed it and the previous two administrations has been financially gutted and "missed the boat" in terms of effective and accurate information gathering...

Originally posted by BP:
the people who'll defend bush to the end are too egotistical or brainwashed to recognize and admit that we deserve a better plan, better leadership.



Find me someone better, then. While I'm not overly-enamored with Bush or the way he presents himself, I'll do back-flips for most of the staff he's got on board and the no-nonsense way he addresses some of the jackals that are sitting in office in certain European countries today.



Originally posted by BP:
is kerry that person, i don't know. but imo bush hasn't been making the best decisions, plus he doesn't strike me as the sharpest pencil in his admin.



I wouldn't trust Kerry on much, since I can't find anything solid on the guy or where he stands. The guy is a moving target on almost everything, except taxes...

Originally posted by BP:
smh at you who are blinded with war, if you think we can bully terrorism into a thing of the past you're kidding yourselves.

And ignoring the problem or pretenting that it doesn't exist and/or being gullible enough that the UN is the God-given answer to every slight visited upon the world in the form of a terrorist is just as naieve and gullible. I can't STAND the thought of war, however I can bear it better than I can having a group of foreigners with financial ties to a corrupt regime trying to tell US how to handle security matters that have persisted for over a decade. Meeting terrorism and those that harbor or support it HEAD-ON is the only way to minimize it's effects on this planet, as we will NEVER be able to fully exterminate it.

Again, the Iraq invasion stood on it's own merits even if 9/11 never happened. This is a chapter that should have been closed back in '91, but wasn't. With Hussein in power, Iraq was a long-term security risk and one with relatively minimal pain in dislogding. Case closed.

Finaly, answer me this. How many fringe lumatics seem open to negociation on their values? If you can't guess, NONE is almost always going to be the correct answer. If you think terrorism is a passing "fad" that will go away with time and the US turning a blind eye to it, it's you who are sadly mistaken. This is a moderately new fight for the US and it's taking us some time in learning how to best respond to it; we've still got agencies in the DoD that are only now coming out of a Cold War mentality in terms of project funding and operations.

Patience. You will definitely need it as we are in this for the long-haul...

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