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Of course attacks are presently up, as PREDICTED!
Both Iraq and Afganistan are approaching elections & terrorists KNOW it is the most critical time to attack so the will give it all they have. Same in Chechnia, same in Spain, and you can bet if Al Queda can possibly manage, the same in US and UK.
You must have patience and take a longer view in these things..progress (by ANY precident you can name) is expected to unfold over YEARS yet the media (in part driven by the political season and in part driven by ratings) gives the impression that it should be settled by election day or else.
I predict that when we are past ALL thses elections, there will be a gradual cooling off. Not all at once but gradual. We are training more Iraqi security forces, they will ultiamtely allow a reduction in our troup strength. Reducing troups + involving people in elections will gradualy take wind from the sails of those that would call us occupiers..which in turn will cool of some of the hostility and allow further troup reductions. There will be setbacks. Unanticipated problems. But when we have pulled back...the people will then know we are NOT occupiers, that the Islamic militant retoric about Americans being crusaders bent on conquest was a lie. And democracy in some form (even if limited/partial) very well may flourish. And the US may be ultimately be respected more than before not less and not just for our military might. We will see..
What the west bank has turned into...what was it?
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Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
...You must have patience and take a longer view in these things...
I've learned that asking for patience from a knee-jerk liberal is akin to asking a fish to walk...
...doubly so during an election year where they pull out all stops to sensationalize any and every item they can.
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Originally posted by daenku32:
There are now MORE uprising and attacks on US troops in Iraq than there has been since the war started.
And fighting in Afghanistan has not slowed down.
Bush doesn't want to leave Iraq or Afghanistan until they practically give their allegiances to the US. Since this is not going to happen ever, we are going to be stuck there fighting people we instigated in the first place.
Just look at what west bank has turned into.
/rant on
All I'm getting from you is negatives, and it's getting old.
You love the bad news, you love the deaths, you love the military failures just so you could openly bash the US government and our foreign policy.
Well let me tell you something, our foreign policy isn't going to change, so either get used to it, or take your ultra left-wing ass out of the country. Suck Al Franken's dick on your way out.
/rant off
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Ok, I feel much better now, carry on.
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Haha....nice, JVT. Dan, there was some errant quoting going on there. We need to get that fixed. 
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Anyone for a time warp?
The old "America: Love it or leave it" bumpersticker could make a come back.
Before you load the freight cars to ship the liberals off to Canada, our similarities are stronger than our differences, and both sides of the debate generally do both love this country.
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FWIW, I agree with PDX. I think everybody here has the same love of country but different views as to how to get where we ALL want to go....toward peace, prosperity for all who work for it, and a good life for all. This forum is in a sence, a microcosm of how democracy works...throw out different ideas where they are bent and molded into the best workable solution that all can agree on (mostly). And re-evaluate often. The re-election is that re-evaluation process. Shouting is permitted but respect is needed. It is easy to get sucked into insults...Ive done it myself..but the process suffers if we do..
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Originally posted by JVT:
Originally posted by daenku32:
There are now MORE uprising and attacks on US troops in Iraq than there has been since the war started.
And fighting in Afghanistan has not slowed down.
Bush doesn't want to leave Iraq or Afghanistan until they practically give their allegiances to the US. Since this is not going to happen ever, we are going to be stuck there fighting people we instigated in the first place.
Just look at what west bank has turned into.
/rant on
All I'm getting from you is negatives, and it's getting old.
You love the bad news, you love the deaths, you love the military failures just so you could openly bash the US government and our foreign policy.
Well let me tell you something, our foreign policy isn't going to change, so either get used to it, or take your ultra left-wing ass out of the country. Suck Al Franken's dick on your way out.
/rant off
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Originally posted by PDXSVT:
and both sides of the debate generally do both love this country.
Too bad the 'other' side doesn't seem to show it at all, I.E. Daenku.
If you can't wait to read CNN every morning in hopes of finding something NEGATIVE so you can bash the government, then you've been brainwashed and you might as well join the enemy.
Trust me, I'm all for debate and arguments for and against, but if you're just picking off BAD news to support your ultra-left ideals, then you won't get any respect from me.
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Originally posted by daenku32:
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So, in anotherwords, you agree with what I wrote?
Glad we're on the same page on at least one issue.
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