Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

OK, this is my TOP reason why Kerry should NOT be elected. Because he is of similar philosophy...I do not want somebody planning to win the peace.

WAR is won by winning WAR...



then why does bush talk about winning the peace in iraq? doesn't this go against your stated philosophy?

btw who are we at war with? the iraqi people?


Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

We would not be in Iraq now had we finished the job in 91 and not worried about "peace" on UN terms.

you have dubya's daddy to thank for that one.

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
You could even argue that 9/11 my have been avoided had we done then what we are doing now.



complete and utter bs. iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and it's been stated by our own intelligence agencies several times.

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
...replacing a decade of anti-US hate speach/teaching.



and you think what we're doing now is going to change that how?

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

We would have won Vietnam had we taken off the gloves, crossed the borders to cut off supply and retreat and scoarched earth as indicated..Focusing on winning the peace would have done nothing to win that war or the present war.



wouldn't that plan have led to peace? you can have a war that leads to peace right? we bombed the sh!t out of japan and the war was over = peace.

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

Read "the art of war" sometime & see if winning peace is discussed..



i have and it doesn't apply to iraq because we're not fighting the traditional enemy in iraq. we're at war with an ideology, which is a war that i don't beleive can be won with soldiers, guns, and bombs. don't get me wrong, it does have it's place when used correctly.

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

Make no mistake, miscalculations occur in EVERY war....The side that RECALCULATES, ADJUSTS, and hit again with MORE, wins.



bush recalculating (flip flopping)? say it isn't so...

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

But when it is over we WILL have a good shot at peace, of that I am confident.



is peace the objective here or not. please pick a side.

i don't know who has the answers to how we get out of this problem we're in with iraq. i just think we went about it the wrong way to begin with and started so far off course with a plan to win the "war" against terrorism that now we're stuck in an even deeper predicament. i hope whomever is the next president has some long boots on cause the sh!t we're in is deep.

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