figures that my battery takes a crap on me today, apparently my alternator had a short in it which shorted the battery. now i had to buy a new alternator and battery, so there goes around 200 clams. looks like ill have to save another month or too to afford the atx --> mtx swap. hopefully i can get someone like you russell to do it heh, cuz i sure dont feel like getting (censored) over with labor costs. ~later~