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91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
No way!!! Your differential is indestructable. Somebody must have swapped in a 98+ diff.  
You're being quite a jackass. Prepubescent sarcasm has entered this thread, time to close it down.
This WAS an intelligent discussion.
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This was never an intelligent discussion. Pre98s diffs break too, maybe less, but they also see less abuse. That's just the way it is and to try to make it sound any different isn't intelligent. Since when did you decide when things get closed down? Anyways.... the whole thing was off topic. This thread shouldn't even exist.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
to try to make it sound any different isn't intelligent.
Thats where you're wrong. To make it sound any different is a different OPINION. There have not been any cold hard facts posted here yet, so everything currently is opinion.
Problem is we don't really have any cold hard facts.
I tried gathering data based on the CEG registry for number of cars here and compare that with the number of known blown diffs. I don't know how many diffs exactly have blown in SVT's or 98+ cars, but we now have 1 report of a broken diff in a pre-98.
Pre-98 cars in the registry: ~250
SVT cars in the registry: ~500
Pre-98 blown diffs: 1
SVT blown diffs: I'd guess at 50.
If you take those numbers, 0.004% of pre-98 diffs have blown and 1% of SVT diffs have blown. Thats a fairly big difference IMO.
But then again, this is data based of a database of only 1000 cars, and only on the CEG and assumes if you are part of CEG you abuse your car.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
This was never an intelligent discussion. Pre98s diffs break too, maybe less, but they also see less abuse. That's just the way it is and to try to make it sound any different isn't intelligent. Since when did you decide when things get closed down? Anyways.... the whole thing was off topic. This thread shouldn't even exist.
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....95-97 diff gears wer 'cut' as conventional gears...after that they went smaller gear teeth ,less meaty and have the appearence of 'moulded'/sintered gears....not so on the 99-00 diff...I have don a number of those with chewed up diff gears,they did not go back to the 95-97 type...in fact I have a 2000 svt(with later tower from new) and 2001 focus trans in the shop right now,both have the weak type gears and both have 'metal worm'!......
The whole point is that diff breakage is wway less common in the pre98's - no one but you said it COULDN'T happen, just as far as we know it hadn't. Now that mbb has spoken up I know of one that did break.
There you go. Sooooo, let me put it in terms a kid could understand:
If the pre 98 diff is my Dad, and the 98diff is kremits dad, and the quaife is Y2K's dad then Y2k's dad could beat up my dad and my dad could beat up kremits dad (and kremits dad would just kick kremits ass just for being himself  )
97 Contour SE MTX
K&N 3530, UR UDP, 19# Injectors, mystery mod, FMS wires, Fordchip.com chip, SVT: TB, Flywheel, clutch, exhaust
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Originally posted by ScottK:
If the pre 98 diff is my Dad, and the 98diff is kremits dad, and the quaife is Y2K's dad then Y2k's dad could beat up my dad and my dad could beat up kremits dad (and kremits dad would just kick kremits ass just for being himself )
rofl!
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Originally posted by ScottK:
If the pre 98 diff is my Dad, and the 98diff is kremits dad, and the quaife is Y2K's dad then Y2k's dad could beat up my dad and my dad could beat up kremits dad (and kremits dad would just kick kremits ass just for being himself )
Sounds to me as if you want us all to pull out our wangs and sword fight.
As your buddy rkneeshaw3.0 stated, he was pointing out opinions. I also was pointing out my opinion, which is why I clearly stated, and often put in "quotes" that I was basing my "opinion" on common sense. I stated basically that common sense would tell anyone that SVT Contours would get beat on more than a non-SVT Contour. Never did I say that SE's and GL's DON'T get beat on. I just mearly stated that the likelihood is "greater" in the SVT which is why you will most likely see the Diffs breaking in them. Apparently you want to turn it into a "my opinion is better than your opinion" conversation, so since my "opinion" isn't wanted, I'll back down to your all mighty opinionated selves
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by ScottK:
If the pre 98 diff is my Dad, and the 98diff is kremits dad, and the quaife is Y2K's dad then Y2k's dad could beat up my dad and my dad could beat up kremits dad (and kremits dad would just kick kremits ass just for being himself )
Sounds to me as if you want us all to pull out our wangs and sword fight.
As your buddy rkneeshaw3.0 stated, he was pointing out opinions. I also was pointing out my opinion, which is why I clearly stated, and often put in "quotes" that I was basing my "opinion" on common sense. I stated basically that common sense would tell anyone that SVT Contours would get beat on more than a non-SVT Contour. Never did I say that SE's and GL's DON'T get beat on. I just mearly stated that the likelihood is "greater" in the SVT which is why you will most likely see the Diffs breaking in them. Apparently you want to turn it into a "my opinion is better than your opinion" conversation, so since my "opinion" isn't wanted, I'll back down to your all mighty opinionated selves
Mark
That was just a bit of humor - the real reason I posted was to share Terry's observation:
....95-97 diff gears wer 'cut' as conventional gears...after that they went smaller gear teeth ,less meaty
No opinions, no talk of abuse - just an observation that the pre98 diffs were in fact a different part than the post 98, and Terry hasn't seen the pre98s fail.
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Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by ScottK:
If the pre 98 diff is my Dad, and the 98diff is kremits dad, and the quaife is Y2K's dad then Y2k's dad could beat up my dad and my dad could beat up kremits dad (and kremits dad would just kick kremits ass just for being himself )
Sounds to me as if you want us all to pull out our wangs and sword fight.
As your buddy rkneeshaw3.0 stated, he was pointing out opinions. I also was pointing out my opinion, which is why I clearly stated, and often put in "quotes" that I was basing my "opinion" on common sense. I stated basically that common sense would tell anyone that SVT Contours would get beat on more than a non-SVT Contour. Never did I say that SE's and GL's DON'T get beat on. I just mearly stated that the likelihood is "greater" in the SVT which is why you will most likely see the Diffs breaking in them. Apparently you want to turn it into a "my opinion is better than your opinion" conversation, so since my "opinion" isn't wanted, I'll back down to your all mighty opinionated selves
Mark
That was just a bit of humor - the real reason I posted was to share Terry's observation:
....95-97 diff gears wer 'cut' as conventional gears...after that they went smaller gear teeth ,less meaty
No opinions, no talk of abuse - just an observation that the pre98 diffs were in fact a different part than the post 98, and Terry hasn't seen the pre98s fail.
It's all good Scott. I try to bring humor to everything I say.
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by ScottK:
If the pre 98 diff is my Dad, and the 98diff is kremits dad, and the quaife is Y2K's dad then Y2k's dad could beat up my dad and my dad could beat up kremits dad (and kremits dad would just kick kremits ass just for being himself )
Sounds to me as if you want us all to pull out our wangs and sword fight.
As your buddy rkneeshaw3.0 stated, he was pointing out opinions. I also was pointing out my opinion, which is why I clearly stated, and often put in "quotes" that I was basing my "opinion" on common sense. I stated basically that common sense would tell anyone that SVT Contours would get beat on more than a non-SVT Contour. Never did I say that SE's and GL's DON'T get beat on. I just mearly stated that the likelihood is "greater" in the SVT which is why you will most likely see the Diffs breaking in them. Apparently you want to turn it into a "my opinion is better than your opinion" conversation, so since my "opinion" isn't wanted, I'll back down to your all mighty opinionated selves
Mark
That was just a bit of humor - the real reason I posted was to share Terry's observation:
....95-97 diff gears wer 'cut' as conventional gears...after that they went smaller gear teeth ,less meaty
No opinions, no talk of abuse - just an observation that the pre98 diffs were in fact a different part than the post 98, and Terry hasn't seen the pre98s fail.
It's all good Scott. I try to bring humor to everything I say.
Mark
I would just about pee my pants laughing if emin came back and said he hadn't posted in a while because he broke his diff at the track
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