Originally posted by Lance Kinley:
Originally posted by JVT:
Please, name things that the President was directly responsible for that made the country worse off. (keep in mind we're talking if 9/11 didn't happen, so budget deficit aside)

-J



I got one:

Patriot Act

Quite simply, the most intrusive, rights abolishing legislation ever signed by a President into law. There's nothing patriotic about it whatsoever. And Bush wants it renewed again because of the inherent time limit -- remember the State of the Union address?

I'm not excited about any of the 'choices' for President.

-Lance



In 2+ the odd years of it's existance, do you have any concrete examples of an individual being harmed substantially by the act?

Clearly, SOMETHING needed to be done to improve intel agency capability to monitor terrorist suspects....some type of compromise with "pure privacy" rights. If certain aspects of the act go TOO far (which are by nature likely in such a broad reform) then this needs to be demonstrated by the judical branch to congress so that they can revise the legislation. Instead of just making it a political issue...The executive branch should not have to do EVERYTHING..

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