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Originally posted by sigma:
Oh God... You called PackRat and 99blacksesport liberals... Now you've done it.
LMAO LOL. Sigma, you're my favorite liberal, this post by you just made my day. 
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Originally posted by arch:
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Well put sigma. There really isn't any discussion left to have.
Agreed. Very well put.
Sandman, apparently sigma saw the video if he mentioned the worker. Maybe he has the link?
Ill post more about each response to what I said, but Im in a rush right now.
The worker was mentioned in the text of at least 2 articles I found, but not seen in the video. Given that she almost killed this guy, she was not guilty of mere speeding, but also reckless driving, disorderly conduct, aggravated fleeing and eluding, and attempted manslaughter.
In short, she is a wanted fleeing felon. Plenty of reasons to get her stopped.
During this entire free-for-all, you have consistantly missed the rational conclusion: Don't run from the police.
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During this entire free-for-all, you have consistantly missed the rational conclusion: Don't run from the police.
I think someone stated that way back on page one but I'm not sure who that intelligent individual was!
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Originally posted by Red92784:
My opinion is my own. Anyone who knows me knows that it cannot be changed.
Your opinion, yes. Nobody is denying that you can have your opinion. When you start bringing "facts" to the table that are refuted successfully time and time again with legitimage fact and logic, you run back to your original argument, slamming your fist on the desk, screaming for attention.
Nobody is trying to change an OPINION. We're asking you to pull your head out of your ass and actually READ something thoroughly. You're getting too caught up in the detail of someone dying to realize that the ONLY thing that could be done in that situation was the PIT. There are absolutely no other options. Boxing was determined too risky to the officers and other motorists, you cannot shoot at a car at that speed and expect to hit anything, They could not back off for fear of endagering the lives of legitimate innocent (meaning NOT INVOLVED IN THE CHASE) people. If they let these f*cks go, who knows what would have happened? Nobody. And now this drunk driver got what they deserved. To die because of their own stupidity, and not cause the deaths or injuries of other people.
The options they had were to either let them go or to stop them using any means available and necessary. There was NO WAY to seal off the highway for enough time to setup a spike strip. I don't know how many times you've driven 95 or how much of it you've driven, but, I've driven it between Maine and Georgia several times. The ONLY time I saw fewer than hundreds of cars on it was between the hours of 3am and 5am on a Saturday morning. Cars travelling at 60mph are going to flash by you in a heartbeat. That spike strip may take a second to deploy and another second to retract, but, you've also run the risk of blowing out the tires of no fewer than 10 other completely innocent drivers, passengers, carpoolers, etc. So let's do the math... possibly kill two people, at least one of which is guilty of SOMEthing bad enough to run from the cops, or send out a strip and possibly kill 20. 2 is a risk worth taking. And THAT was the decision that had to be made. The cop driving the car that took them out will live with that for the rest of his life. The knowledge that he did "the right thing" will most likely NEVER be enough to counter the fact that he inadvertently killed two people.
And as far as you trying to knock Pack Rat... you should pick your battles much more wisely.
And, do us all a favor, and let us know how we can move to the wonderful land of utopia and ignorance. Everything must work perfectly there for you all the time. Every rule is perfect, no crime is EVER committed, because, gee, there is no such thing as a guilty person.
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You guys suck.  I'd rather hit myself in the nads with a hammer than listen to you girls b!tch. On the other hand, it is very amusing at the same time.  Ok, nevermind! Back to b!thin!! 
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The spike strip idea has been abandond for a while now.
But let me ask you this. Would you put a gun to your best friends head and pull the trigger if it meant you would save 10 other lives?
Besides that isn't even relevant. They diddn't know what they were running for. All the cops new is that the girl was trying to get out of a minor speeding ticket. If they backed off when things got dangerous no lives would have been lost. Sure the dumbass driver MIGHT (not likely)have gotten away but there would have been no loss of life.
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Or if she would have stopped in the first place there would have been no loss of life.
You REALLY seem to want to absolve the driver of any responsibility in this. Why?
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I not absolving the driver of any responsibilities. But the chase should have been terminated when it was clear that she was willing to put lives at risk to keep running.
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Which brings us full circle back to the fact that this is a brilliant idea, red (Which we've already covered and refuted, much like your other ideas).
In your world, Should I get pulled over, I should just start endangering some lives. At that point, cops should back off. Who cares if I continue to do it, and kill off a few folks. Oh BTW, what was your address again? I'm gonna get pulled over by your house, run from the cops, shoot your family, then they'll back off. Good idea.
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I have no life
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I haven't read any of the recent posts. Can someone just tell me why this thread is still going? 
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