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Once again. Those are Facts. That is my arguement. That is my point.
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I did say I was done. But The stupidity of everyone else posting got to me. And I needed to post something to reinforce my statements.
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Originally posted by arch:
I did say I was done. But The stupidity of everyone else posting got to me. And I needed to post something to reinforce my statements.
So you're a liar.
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Changing my mind is hardly lying. And what that has anything to do with my point, I fail to see.
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Originally posted by arch:
FACT #8: It is up to the police to determine said relationship BEFORE attempting anything to further endanger the passengers life.
FACT #9: Other non-lethal attempts COULD have been TRIED before resorting to a PIT.
How are they going to determine the relationship? Ask them to pull over nicely? String a pair of coffee cans between the cars and hold a conversation?
Other non-lethal attempts were made- it was called pulling them over in the first place for whatever infractions they were guilty of.
What else were they supposed to do? The strip was determined to not work, they couldn't box them in for fear of losing a half-dozen officers, they couldn't shoot at the car. What other magical option do you have to stop a speeding car? Standing in front of them asking them nicely to slow down?
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If they dont know what the relationship is, they shouldnt be executing deadly force.
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[cue=sonny/cher] It's groundhog day! [/cue] will it ever end...  "don't drive angry..." or post for that matter
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Sheriff Buford T. Justice would've chased them across state lines, through people's back yards, and even cheat death by driving underneath a tractor-trailer(thus slicing the top of the car off!). He never gave up! He'd catch that sombeech!
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Originally posted by arch:
If they dont know what the relationship is, they shouldnt be executing deadly force.
Why not? Example please.
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Originally posted by arch:
If they dont know what the relationship is, they shouldnt be executing deadly force.
They weren't. There was no guarantee that it WOULD kill the occupants, and that is what you are missing. Deadly force usually entails shooting someone. They weren't using deadly force, they were using a tactic. Unfortunately, people died in the process. That does NOT make it lethal force. Intent is what makes the difference. There was no intention of killing those two. It was designed to take them off of the road and it was successful in doing just that.
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