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Originally posted by arch:
After explaining my point several times, it still seems very clear that it is beyond your grasp.
No kidding, because we're not of low enough intelligence to see it from your POV. Thanks for making our point for us.
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Only problem is, some of your facts are made up. Fact: the chase at times reached 100 MPH, but in the quote above it states that the PIT was performed at 110. That is not established fact. Certainly, it was not performed at 35 or less, but watching the video, I highly doubt it was done at 110 either. Fact is, the chase was not at nor did it exceed 100 MPH during its entirety.
Further, there was never any proof that officers decided to use the PIT in that location because the next county would not allow it. State Police typically have superior authority to any county agency, and therefore the policies of the county would not apply to the GSP anyway, so your arguement is without basis.
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Officers in Georgia last week followed neither of the above. State troopers on Interstate 95 attempted to PIT a Nissan Pathfinder on Aug. 17 at speeds in excess of 110 miles per hour. Two people in the SUV died.
That was a statement GSP made to a news agency that I quoted. How you can say that it isnt a fact is beyond me.
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Fact is, the chase was not at nor did it exceed 100 MPH during its entirety.
I must've missed that fact. The cars on the highway are obviously doing 70+ and the GSP cars are flying by those cars. Its clear that they're doing at least around 100, just from the video. Quote:
so your arguement is without basis.
Again you seem to be missing the point of my arguement and end up getting on small sentences within the arguement.
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Originally posted by arch:
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The GSP says that the PIT was kosher. That's all that matters. You can go on and browbeat till the cows come home.
Oh yeah, ok. Because I dont think GSP would stand behind one of thier officers. I guess it all makes sense now. Just because GSP says so.
You're intelligence insults me.
On the contrary, GSP standing behind their officer is a clear endorsement that the officer was acting within departmental policy. If he was not, they would drop him like a hot potatoe in order to shield themselves of liability in the impending lawsuit. But then, I've already stated this in a previous post.
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Originally posted by shotwell:
Who knew that both of them would die? It's an acceptable risk to save innocent commuters from getting slammed. Sorry if you don't agree with me.
Nobody KNEW they would die, but Its common sense. How they handled the situation was wrong.
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Why even bother responding to you.
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Originally posted by arch:
Originally posted by shotwell:
Who knew that both of them would die? It's an acceptable risk to save innocent commuters from getting slammed. Sorry if you don't agree with me.
Nobody KNEW they would die, but Its common sense. How they handled the situation was wrong.
I couldn't disagree with you more. There is no faster way of getting that car off the road. I'm surprised they waited 60 miles. Must have tried other things first...
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Originally posted by arch:
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Officers in Georgia last week followed neither of the above. State troopers on Interstate 95 attempted to PIT a Nissan Pathfinder on Aug. 17 at speeds in excess of 110 miles per hour. Two people in the SUV died.
That was a statement GSP made to a news agency that I quoted. How you can say that it isnt a fact is beyond me.
That's not a part of a statement by anyone. That's an clip from the lead paragraph of a news article. Don't be a douche.
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I couldn't disagree with you more. There is no faster way of getting that car off the road. I'm surprised they waited 60 miles. Must have tried other things first...
They did not. Im not going into an arguement about that ethier.
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That's not a part of a statement by anyone. That's an clip from the lead paragraph of a news article. Don't be a douche.
The news article said it was from GSP. But I guess they're wrong also.
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Originally posted by arch:
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Only problem is, some of your facts are made up. Fact: the chase at times reached 100 MPH, but in the quote above it states that the PIT was performed at 110. That is not established fact. Certainly, it was not performed at 35 or less, but watching the video, I highly doubt it was done at 110 either. Fact is, the chase was not at nor did it exceed 100 MPH during its entirety.
Further, there was never any proof that officers decided to use the PIT in that location because the next county would not allow it. State Police typically have superior authority to any county agency, and therefore the policies of the county would not apply to the GSP anyway, so your arguement is without basis.
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Officers in Georgia last week followed neither of the above. State troopers on Interstate 95 attempted to PIT a Nissan Pathfinder on Aug. 17 at speeds in excess of 110 miles per hour. Two people in the SUV died.
That was a statement GSP made to a news agency that I quoted. How you can say that it isnt a fact is beyond me.
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Fact is, the chase was not at nor did it exceed 100 MPH during its entirety.
I must've missed that fact. The cars on the highway are obviously doing 70+ and the GSP cars are flying by those cars. Its clear that they're doing at least around 100, just from the video. Quote:
so your arguement is without basis.
Again you seem to be missing the point of my arguement and end up getting on small sentences within the arguement.
There are several articles on the internet detailing this situation, and only one of them that I've seen says that they pitted at 110. I believe that to be either a typo or deliberate error on the part of the journalist. Actually, I am more inclined to believe the latter.
Further, many truckers (of which were many of the vehicles being passed) do not do more than 60 on any interstate, due to company policy. Roehl, out of WI, is one such major CMVC that has a policy rewarding its drivers with a bonus if the do not exceed that speed limit for a given period of time. Therefore, you cannot judge the speed of the chase based on how fast they were passing normal traffic, as you do not know how fast that traffic was going, regardless of any speed limit in place.
And I got your point long ago, you simply want to be able to run.
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