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**jumps in with both feet**

1.) Red, Kremi, everyone else claiming the driver and passenger were innocent or "could have used something else) are NOT cops. Granted, neither are a majority of the rest of us. But given the situation, the cops did what they had to do- they ENDED A CHASE. Simple, clean, done.

2.) "What if the passenger was innocent?" What's the 0-60 speed of a Pathfinder? When he knew they were getting away from the cops, it'd have been smarter to get the f*ck out of the truck even if it was going 30 and take a couple of broken bones than an arrest, or in this case, death.

3.) With all of the "what if's," there hasn't been the question of what if the cops called off the chase, these two ran out of gas, carjacked and killed someone, stole THEIR car, and continued on this sick joyride? Oh, I'm sorry, you didn't think of that, because you assume both of the people in the Pathfinder were innocent. More "what if's," follow.

4.) What if the cops pulled them over, and the driver and passenger were armed, killed the cops, then took off? A cop was killed simply for pulling someone over? Yep, that's a right smart, nice thing for a person to do, isn't it?

5.) If you're going to start a high-speed chase with the cops, you've got something to hide. I don't care if you're 17 or 70. If the cops try to pull you over, and you've got nothing to hide to make it worse, you pull the F over. Plain and simple. You deal with whatever ticket comes your way.

The FACT of the matter is this- none of your solutions will, for 100% certainty, cause fewer casualties than what transpired. The cops unfortunately caused the truck to flip over. Yes, lives were lost. But, I'm not about to claim innocence here. No way. The cops didn't kill the two in the SUV. The driver did. The cops DID THEIR JOB by attempting to stop the car. You'd rather these two numbskulls continued on what they were doing and killed more people than they be taken out (even if it WAS intentional!)?

What if YOU were driving down the road and these two slammed into your car paralyzing you and (god forbid) kill whoever else you're with- parents, siblings, fiancee's, or even a pregnant wife?

At what point is it worth the risk? When these two have already left a trail of bodies behind them?

And a box maneuver? Why so the driver could slam into the cops on their own, kill them, and then keep going about their merry way? Yeah, that's smart. And, have you EVER fired a gun in your life? You try placing that kind of pressure onto a trigger while you're going 100mph. No road is smooth enough to guarantee a clean shot at ANYTHING, let alone the radiator of the truck. Nevermind the fact that they're nervous as hell already and their aim is going to be off. Spike strip? What if it doesn't work at all? The cops are already backing off at that point so they don't blow out THEIR tires. Then they're even further behind. Run the plates? What if the car was stolen? That move sure as hell wouldn't work.

There's no guarantee that they wouldn't have lost control on their own. At 100mph, what is 1/4 inch turn on the wheel? How about a pothole?

The cops stopped two people from potentially killing more people. It's unfortunate that two lives were taken. But it's NOT a tragedy. They used the only option at the time, and it unfortunately proved fatal to both driver and passenger. Quit trying to be the "good guys" and deal with facts, not the fantasy world you live in where EVERYTHING is perfect. The world is imperfect, and in a lot of ways it sucks. Buy a helmet.

Quote from the GA Police Dept:"The State Patrol's policy on pursuits says the ramming maneuver used on Sharp's vehicle "should only be used at reasonable speeds and in locations where it is reasonable to expect that the maneuver can be safely accomplished."


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you may not need help, but i got your back Packrat...

i got one for ya red...



if you were the passenger and this madman accelrated to 100 + MPH in ANY CAR...would you not then at least buckle your seatbelt???


i know i would.

Yes and its a shame that we have to go over it again.

I would probably too scared to think of a seatbelt.

IT WAS NOT COMPLETED SUCCESFULLY. THE PIT MANUVER IS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE USED UNDER 35MPH.