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Dude, so are you saying the passenger wasn't innocent? I'm still not getting that. Yeah like I said, cops weren't really wrong, just something else shouldda been tried and stuff needs to be developed or planned out better or something to avoid this kinda crap.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Dude, so are you saying the passenger wasn't innocent?
We all already know the passenger was essentially innocent. I am saying someone driving their kids to school is a HELL of a lot more innocent than someone riding alongside the criminal.
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its funny how this thread got competely off track. but anywho, theres alot of issues toward the cop im feeling. well, like previously said......no one wanted the passenger to die......the driver, well one word....DUMB, anyone with a brain shoulda known that one way or another the cops were gonna stop her. so if you were a cop and given the order to take the suspect out......would you rather deal with your captain or chief later because you said,"Nah, i cant do that." think about what the officers deal with, not just the brainless driver and passenger that got stuck in the middle that im probably sure coulda helped stop the chase if they WANTED to. my father has been on the force for almost 20 yrs now, theres a lot of $hit some wouldnt understand. but you gotta do what you gotta do. but to each his own thought.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
But cops should use a little more thought and not go killing people every chance they get
You = moron
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Dude, so are you saying the passenger wasn't innocent? I'm still not getting that. Yeah like I said, cops weren't really wrong, just something else shouldda been tried and stuff needs to be developed or planned out better or something to avoid this kinda crap.
WTF else could they have tried????? seriously, they exhausted all of thier options.
-you cant use spikestrips on a busy freeway becuase you will cause accidents, some unsuspecting driver will run it over not knowing WTF it was.
-you cant block traffic, it will cause more accidents, possibly leading to more deaths.
-dont have a way to shut off the car.
-cant shoot out the tires at 100+ MPH without risking hitting an innocent civilian
-you cant drop [censored] in thier way becuase there is TRAFFIC.
-Roadblocks only work if the suspect is willing to stop.
they cant shoot a missle from a helicopter (not being sarcastic, if i were a cop, the thought woudl have crossed my mind)
-cant lure them onto a city street to try to slow them down, not much is more dangerous than a car barreling down a city street at 100+ MPH, if they were doing that on the highway, they will do it on the street. the only thing worse than a car at those speeds in those conditions is an SUV or pickup truck.
IMO, the PIT was the most viable option that had the least risk to civilians involoved. the minute a driver decides to run from the police, he/she waives all rights to his/her life...THIS DOES NOT MEAN THE PASSENGER DESERVED TO DIE...it just means that he/she gave their life to protect the life of others...if the passenger was in on it, then they both got what they deserved IMO.
this was a no win situation, i think they did DAMN good. do you realize how much danger the officer that performed the manuver put himself in??? imagine a 5000+lb SUV flipping over inches in front of yuou at 100+ miles per hour...he could have died...
and at those speeds, the PIT woudl have flipped most vehicles, even a contour.
rant over.
BTW, this wasnt nessecarily directed only at you kremit.
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Originally posted by DanLeCompte:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
But cops should use a little more thought and not go killing people every chance they get
You = moron
Looks who's talking.
AGAIN, other stuff wasn't tried, though if nothing else couldda been tried something needs to be developed to have a better solution. Or no, let's kill innocent people is better.
And MORE innocent? Either you are innocent or not.
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And MORE innocent? Either you are innocent or not.
Yes, but the differentiation in this case is those we know were innocent and those we don't know.
You're awfully quick to assume that the passenger was totally innocent, even while it's just as, if not more, likely that he wasn't.
And there simply can't be a "other stuff wasn't tried" excuse -- you get one chance to stop a car at 100mph. You don't get to sit around in a War Room and brainstorm 50 different way to go about it.
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They had like 40 minutes, that's enough to try a few things. And even if that 17 yr old didn't try to stop the driver, I doubt they were like yeah go faster, go faster, weeee , I bet we can escape from the police.... still innocent. The situation was bad, some of the other scenarios could be bad, that's why we need to try/develop other stuff.
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They had like 40 minutes, that's enough to try a few things
Time is not exactly the point.
The point is you get one chance at 100mph -- at that speed either they crash and live or they crash and die, the chance of coming to a safe stop involuntarily is virtually nil. You get one chance to make the best decision for the situation.
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And even if that 17 yr old didn't try to stop the driver, I doubt they were like yeah go faster, go faster, weeee , I bet we can escape from the police
Oh, come on!. That's exactly what most 17 year olds are going to do.
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