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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by JonnySVT:
Edit: I just looked at the Cardomain page...it's kind of funny to boast someone else's 1/4 mile times, don't you think?
It's not funny it damn pathetic to rest of someone else's laurels.
We all know it's because Alan is a good driver. 
Thanks for the compliments Greg....
The fact of the Cardomain "bragging rights" bothered me as well.....What can you do.....  
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You know...Iâ??m trying to be calm about this now, because Iâ??m really not trying to burn bridges. But you all make it very difficult to keep my cool.
The wire that went to the coil pack is for the remote start and BlackJax system in the alarm. Thatâ??s the wire that tells the alarm brain the car is started. The wire running to the white and blue wire in that harness was the speed sensor for the turbo times. The TT is a Greddy Full Auto Timer. I put the aftermarket alarm in because I like having that extra bit of added security. The TT was put in because I drive the car every day and did not want to risk damaging the turbo and stuff.
As far as the bragging rites on Cardomain.com, No where on there did I say those times were mine, I simply was putting what the car has been known to do.
Demon, please show me where I â??blamedâ? Alan or Chris, because I just looked at each of my post and donâ??t see where I have â??blamedâ? anyone.
I drive the car like itâ??s a car with good performance. I have never taken it to the track. So from me, it has not gotten track/track style abuse.
I try my best to take other peoples advice, but when the advice given is not working, and I keep getting told the same thing, I get a little pissed. Itâ??s frustrating to be told the same thing over and over and do it and still get no results. Then being told that itâ??s shabby work that was done.
The S-AFC was not giving me an airflow reading, and nobody gave me any advice on what to do about that. It turned out that that was the problem. For some reason the car would not work correctly without that airflow reading. I even posted about not having an airflow reading.
Iâ??m in no way/shape/form saying any of you donâ??t know what youâ??re talking about, because the majority of you have a very complete knowledge of these cars. Iâ??m simply saying that in this case you were incorrect or not completely correct.
Iâ??ve tried my best to be as civilized as I can. If you all feel otherwise about the way I have approached it, then please, feel free to IM me. AIM = XxColdAzFireXx
Again, thank you to those of you who helped me with this. It was simply something that we overlooked and denied the possibility of it being the problem, when in fact, it was the problem.
Robert
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I'm glad that you got the car running right. I understand that you were getting irritated by all of us, but you asked and we answered...and you refused to listen to our advice.
I'm not trying to argue with you...but I need to know a little bit more information.
You say the S-AFC wasn't reading anything..
When you fixed it...were the wires still attached to the coil pack and tachometer wire?
Since you fixed it...did you re-attach the coil pack and tachometer wires?
What exactly did you do to the S-AFC to fix it in the first place? Was there a wire that was not connected or something?
Did you take it back to the alarm place and have them fix the wires, etc? Did they put taps elsewhere and make them waterproof to prevent short circuits?
Or, did you just disconnect the battery lead to attempt to reset the computer or something.
I just want to know what there was that Alan and I missed when we were attempting to diagnose the problem.
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ok.. first off.. I've had work done at the same place that Robert had his alarm and turbo timer installed and they do great work and go above and beyond the call of duty.. I've never had problems with my turbo car because of wiring..
Second... the car is his daily driver.. what do you expect? Alan knew he was selling the car to someone who was going to drive it daily.. If he's upset about the car supposedly going to ****, then he shouldn't have sold it..
Thirdly... I don't know any of you and he did say in one of his first posts that the S-AFC wasn't reading correctly and had asked what that could be and noone replied to that issue..
Fourth... I just checked out his car domain page and it now shows the track times and gives credit where credit is due..
Finally... I am a female that drives a 300hp Eclipse that is perfectly tuned and I know that when my S-AFC got stolen the car didn't run at all because I have 720cc injectors that the stock ECU can't handle..
Anyone who drives a modified car is going to run into problems and the forums are the best place to find answers so don't knock on Robert for needing help.. I'm sure he took everyones advice into consideration when working on fixing the problem, but if a piece of advice isn't working then help him figure out the next step.. don't keep repeating yourself.
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Well why do need a TT on a water cooled turbo?
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Ryan, thank you again for yours and Alan's help in trying to diagnose the problem. None of the wiring that was disconnected was messed with since you disconnected it. All the wiring with the S-AFC was not tampered with, merely inspected, everything seemed to be in order there. I went into the settings of the S-AFC and went to Initialize, which resets the AFC to it's default settings, and reset everything. After that, it started right up, finally giving me an airflow reading, which I had not had before. I then put the original chip back into the ECU and hooked up the switch. I started the car with the switch in the neutral position and it started right up. Before, as you may recall, it would not start with the switch in any other position than the "cold" programming. I shut it off and then restarted it, to make sure it was not just a fluke that it was working. I then test drove it around the block to continue to reasure myself that it was running correctly. After I was sure everything was working correctly, I took it for a longer drive, about an hour, and had absolutely no problems. It has been starting right up without incident ever since. I don't know why it would have lost that sensor reading, but reseting it cured it's ailment. Thank you again to both you and Alan. I greatly appreciate you both coming all the way down here to help me with the car.
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I called this a while ago...
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by XxColdAzFireXx:
I just got my turbo CSVT on sunday, and that thing kicks in at about 2800-3200. Not really sure exactly, because I'm a little busy gripping on for dear life. But, i just have to get used to the car. That's with a 2.5L with a T28 turbo from ADC.
This is hilarious. A noob with a turbo tour (we all envy) that he knows nothing about. Oh sh!t this should be fun.
I missed a lot while I was gone. 
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acid832.....when this company installed electronics on your car...did they tap into the coil pack?? I hope not. Anyone who owns a Contour knows not to mess with that. The coil pack operates on very minute amounts of electricity and any resistance introduced will surely throw off the firing of the spark plugs.
Robert, thank you for answering my questions. Think for a second why the S-AFC would have gotten messed up. Obviously the original chip was still good and nobody changed the settings on the S-AFC. The only change in the car was the TT and the alarm. Something that had to do with these two additions to the car affected the S-AFC. Could the coil pack wiring have disturbed something? I don't know.
To me...the problem points at the changes introduced to the system. I make a living figuring out what causes problems...I would be very wary in reconnecting those two wires that I mentioned. Also, I would try and fix that wire on the IAC wiring clip. Once that shorts the car will NOT start. Put a water proof seal on it at least.
Once again, good luck and be very careful with what you mess with when it comes to wiring.....oh...and you may want to invest in some new tires! 
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Originally posted by acid832:
ok.. first off.. I've had work done at the same place that Robert had his alarm and turbo timer installed and they do great work and go above and beyond the call of duty.. I've never had problems with my turbo car because of wiring..
Second... the car is his daily driver.. what do you expect? Alan knew he was selling the car to someone who was going to drive it daily.. If he's upset about the car supposedly going to ****, then he shouldn't have sold it..
Thirdly... I don't know any of you and he did say in one of his first posts that the S-AFC wasn't reading correctly and had asked what that could be and noone replied to that issue..
Fourth... I just checked out his car domain page and it now shows the track times and gives credit where credit is due..
Finally... I am a female that drives a 300hp Eclipse that is perfectly tuned and I know that when my S-AFC got stolen the car didn't run at all because I have 720cc injectors that the stock ECU can't handle..
Anyone who drives a modified car is going to run into problems and the forums are the best place to find answers so don't knock on Robert for needing help.. I'm sure he took everyones advice into consideration when working on fixing the problem, but if a piece of advice isn't working then help him figure out the next step.. don't keep repeating yourself.
Big deal...you drive a 300hp Eclipse...Yada Yada. You obviously are uneducated about a Contour with a turbo. I could put 6000cc injectors(we use the lbs. term) and not run an S-AFC and the car would still run perect given the "tuned" chip was functioning properly. You see, that's the difference, this car is tuned by the chips custom programming...not the S-AFC!
I have no problem with the way someone treats there car be it sh!t or like a baby....but when someone call's the previous owner and want's to know what to troubleshoot, without putting forth obvious effort, or backtracking recent modifications to the car, that's when I have a problem! No point intended Robert, I know you checked things out to the best of your ability, just making a hypothetical statement.
The second part of the my personal irritation is that I specifically instructed Robert to start a post on the CEG and try and get some feedback form the other platform specialists....It took me practically 5 times repeatedly for him to finally take my advice.
I would have daily driven the car had I been required to...without a turbo timer to boot...Those BB turbos don't cake the bearings with heated/dried oil like the old scholl models do.
My best advice for someone on doing electrical work is to make sure your connections are waterproof!
I'm glad you got the car running again Robert, but remember what I told you....read that S-AFC instruction manual as well as the others...... 
2002 ZO6...462whp/410wtq
pretty darn fast!11.70 @ 122
silver/black
2006 Trailblazer SS(wifes car)
silver/black
2000 SVT-Turbo-sold
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13.51 @ 107.56 on 8psi
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Originally posted by acid832:
ok.. first off.. I've had work done at the same place that Robert had his alarm and turbo timer installed and they do great work and go above and beyond the call of duty.. I've never had problems with my turbo car because of wiring..
Second... the car is his daily driver.. what do you expect? Alan knew he was selling the car to someone who was going to drive it daily.. If he's upset about the car supposedly going to ****, then he shouldn't have sold it..
Thirdly... I don't know any of you and he did say in one of his first posts that the S-AFC wasn't reading correctly and had asked what that could be and noone replied to that issue..
Fourth... I just checked out his car domain page and it now shows the track times and gives credit where credit is due..
Finally... I am a female that drives a 300hp Eclipse that is perfectly tuned and I know that when my S-AFC got stolen the car didn't run at all because I have 720cc injectors that the stock ECU can't handle..
Anyone who drives a modified car is going to run into problems and the forums are the best place to find answers so don't knock on Robert for needing help.. I'm sure he took everyones advice into consideration when working on fixing the problem, but if a piece of advice isn't working then help him figure out the next step.. don't keep repeating yourself.
Oh crap! 300hp? Really? Damn, that's crazy. I bet you're the only one to take a DSM to 300hp huh.  And I don't know if you realize this....but just because a car is a daily driver doesn't automatically mean it goes to s$%&$...There are plenty of daily drivers out there, including mine, that look as good as the day they were sold. I'm scared if you're car is a daily driver....300hp, but bald tires and rips in the seats... 
99 SVTC, T-Red, #652/2760-12.8.1998
Mother#@%@!* did I sound abstract?
I hope it sounded more confusin than that!
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