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Re: KKM + cold air induction? #103239 08/24/01 04:24 PM
Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 3,248 The 3rd Rock from the Sun D Dan Nixon Member
Dan Nixon Member D Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 3,248 The 3rd Rock from the Sun	Bobby Knauber compared KKM (gauze) and Monster Flow (foam) side by side on his SE V6. KKM was 2-3 HP better from 4000-redline. Dynos posted somewhere. High flow SVT heads /intake, bigger throttle body, etc. may allow greater gains on SVT. 1999 Amazon Green SVT Contour (#554/2760) Stock SVT Duratec V6 with: Intake- K&N filter/75mm MAF meter Exhaust- MSDS Y-pipe/Bassani catback Durability-Ford "dual mode" damper, Mobil 1/K&N oil filter 179.2 FWHP at 6900 RPM

Re: KKM + cold air induction? #103240 08/25/01 05:10 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 852 Montreal, Quebec, Canada M mangler Member
mangler Member M Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 852 Montreal, Quebec, Canada	I'm aware of these tests. However, it seems the KKM has a geater surface area than the monster flow, so these plots cannot be used to judge filtering media. Marco Tatta 98.5 SE MTX, Duratec EGR block, fog light fix, custom shift boot, monsterflow intake, Ecotek valve Quasi dual cardoctor exhaust. Hacksaw short shift, Momo race "s" carbon knob, ghetto rear strut bar, 16 inch cougar wheels with 225/50/16 kumho 712s

Re: KKM + cold air induction? #103241 08/25/01 05:30 AM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,050 Tucson AZ W warmonger Member
warmonger Member W Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,050 Tucson AZ	I just have to chime in on this one. I live in Tucson AZ and I know about dust. I have to clean my K&N filter about every 5k miles! I change oil every 3k and I check the filter each time. Dust is so bad it makes mud with the oil in the filter if I go more than two oil changes...tried it once. The Paper cones for the svt are waste in about 5k miles out here. Quote: Originally posted by DemonSVT: I agree about the fleet use. How many Duratec rental cars are out there. I would imagine most are Zetec... The cotton/wire mesh straightens out the incoming air as opposed to the foams basically trying to stop it altogether (turbulence) this is where it makes a jump in CFM difference. Plus the air has less turbulence so it increases velocity and efficiency. K&N has achieved over 99% efficincy rating. Like I said. You can fight over that last 1% all you like. Yes foam can hold more dirt. But the CFM rating of foam plummets extremely fast and it's pretty low to begin with (I gave specs in the Filter 101 post) The CFM rating numbers were SAE. K&N's numbers are a bit more skewed against foam & paper... The test they showed had: (all indentical filter applications 12" round x 3.4" tall) AMSOil LT-31 Foam: 376cfm Dirty K&N: 463cfm (used 42k miles!) Paper: 508cfm clean K&N: 887cfm That's like 236% more... That's seems pretty high. I'll stick with the 50% SAE numbers... It would take quite a spirit washing to disrupt the layers of cotton and mesh to effect the filter efficiency greatly. (like compressed air! that's a no-no BTW) Oh yeah. BTW - I've cleaned mine twice and those are my sample results. (matter of fact that sample was the oil change right after I cleaned it. When it is at it's worst efficiency) I live in KC. Probably slightly above average dust conditions. I'm glad you like your foam. I like my CFM. I do not have a filtration problem. I am happy... You can call me anything you like as long as it's nice.(all lies accepted) 99 Silver Frost SVT. #226 of 2760 Engine: 3.0 power! Unique Stuff: Sunroof control module (#1 of 9) Car Audio: Loaded and loud! Check them out at http://home.earthlink.net/~twilson1726

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