Rara with all due respect, and i do respect you. I have learned alot from you. I do not think anything about my post was uncivil as you claim and I am really not trying to get rowdy or anything. I'm just adding a younger persons opinion to contrast to Evolution's. Im really not attacking anyone and if anyone felt that way, i am truly sorry. Hmm about the whole use of the word ignorance in my post, I could be wrong, but in the instance of wanting to kill one's self over car trends, im pretty sure that ignorant and dumb are synonyms in this case.